I really don't think that the law is fair when it comes to men's rights to their children. I'll go through my throught process, see if anyone agrees with me here.

Who does the baby belong to more, the mother, father, or to each equally? I think most people agree with me, the child belongs to both equally. Before Roe vs. Wade, women's rights were being violated, and I definitely think that the system is more fair to women than it used to be. The problem is that it is unfair to men.

If the child belongs to the mother and father equally, they should have equal rights to the child. When does the woman make the decision to have the child or not? After sex, because she can have an abortion, and decide to not support a child, or keep it and make the decision to support the child. Men don't have that luxury. They make the decision to support the baby before they had sex, because if the woman decides to have the baby, they have to pay child support for 18 years.

I'm also not saying that guys shouldn't pay child support to women or anything, I'm just pointing out that the rights are not equal. The woman gets to decide after sex, the man decides before sex. That's not equal.

I'm friends with a guy who is pro-life, for religious and moral reasons. He got his girlfriend pregnant, and she didn't want to have the baby. For my friend, his girlfriend having an abortion would be the loss of a son in his mind. He offered to raise the child himself, if she would be willing to have it. She refused, and had the abortion anyways, and my friend was devastated.

I don't think that is right, that my friend had to experience what was, to him, the loss of his first kid. That's a horrible thing for someone to go through, and I definitely think that his rights were violated.

I understand that because women are naturally different than men, they carry a certain burden. Whats more, not having the right to choose made this far worse, and I believe that it wasn't fair to them. I want unfair laws to be made fair, I dont want them to be made unfair to the other side. Current laws punish men for something they have no control over, by taking away their rights to determining their future and their child's future.

I think this operates on the same idea behind slavery reparations and affirmative action, that to make everything equal, the government has to intervene and make it fair. I want the government to come in and level the playing field, but what I am against them doing is deciding if the playing field should be stacked in the other direction, how much they should stack the playing field and for how long.

Alrighty, rip me to shreds now.

...so don't get a woman pregnant if you know she doesn't want a baby...

Seems pretty simple from where I'm sitting...

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It could have been an accident, condom broke...whatever. I feel for the guy, but the couple should have had somesort of discussion about this beforehand, if they were at all serious.

I agree on the philosophy, but there are technical problems. How would the "father" be able to prove fatherhood to deny the abortion if he had a right to stop the abortion?

As the courts have given precedent to those who are the genetic parents to implanted embryos, I think you raise an interesting paradox.