Originally Posted by votetheoneyouhatetheleast

True. And that is part of an amendment.

"an alteration of or addition to a motion, bill, constitution, etc. a change made by correction, addition, or deletion"

Just because it was written a long time ago doesn't make it necessarily relevant.

Quite the opposite, it was an idealistic opinion written in time spectacularly different from now.

And that very statement contradicts itself. "Everybody is equal male and female, white or black or Hispanic or Asian..., intelligent or completely moronic"

That's not true in any other aspect of life is it? why should it be relevant in probably the most important?

We all will say "everybody is different" yet in the same breath say "we should treat everybody equally".

Originally Posted by Tarheeler

You're right, the time was much different than now. Men were allowed to own other men and women had no rights when those words were written.
Just look at what this nation went thru for those rights to be exentded universally. Don't ya just hate progress?

Originally Posted by votetheoneyouhatetheleast

I'm an independent for one thing not a liberal. Just because I think Bush is an incompetent leader doesn't make me liberal, doesn't even exclude me from being republican, I choose to weigh up his actions and determine my own opinion, over blind party loyalty.

Originally Posted by votetheoneyouhatetheleast

So... what you're saying is... they were wrong about other things? lol

You know in court if you're wrong a few times then you have no credibility.

You really think the founding fathers would've made it ok for any idiot to decide the future of the country in the type of tentative world we live in today?

Originally Posted by JeffLV

It's not necessarally a bad idea to restrict voting, but the question is how you will do it... morons voting might be less risky than allowing the governmen to set up standards on who can vote.

Originally Posted by votetheoneyouhatetheleast

You really think the founding fathers would've made it ok for any idiot to decide the future of the country in the type of tentative world we live in today?

Originally Posted by Tarheeler

That's not the only problem with the idea. The phrase " All men are created equal..." kinda pops into my mind here. It means that everyone, male and female, white or black or hispanic or asian..., intelligent or completely moronic, all get to have the same rights here. That includes voting.

Originally Posted by B-rett

The trick with dealing with morons is a simple one. Remove all the warning labels from stuff and let natural selection take its course. Since the morons arent alive they cant vote

Originally Posted by Skeptikos Examiner

What about the right to drive a car or to fly a plain? Actually requiring people to be able before they are allowed to do certain things is not an attack on their right but the standard procedure in most others areas.

Anyone has the right to drive a car as long as he can proof to he is able to do it in a responsible manner, why should it be different with voting? Does everyone has the right to a PhD or only those who can actually proof at least the basic requirements? And is that taking rights away from those who do not get a PhD or simply the logical way things work?

Originally Posted by B-rett

The trick with dealing with morons is a simple one. Remove all the warning labels from stuff and let natural selection take its course. Since the morons arent alive they cant vote

Originally Posted by votetheoneyouhatetheleast

Very good. This is the one problem with the idea. Who says who can and can't vote?