School - Against Human Rights Act? - Page 5

97240sx · #41 (**permalink**) 06-02-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MasTequila

Along with Social Security, Medi-Cade, Medi-Care, National Endowment of the Arts, PBS and other things. Everything should be put on the states shoulders and let the people of the states decide.

Actually I take quite the opposite approach. These programs are meant to even out the playing field to make competition more fair for everyone. Right now it's extremely lopsided and definately impossible for the little guy to compete with someone who has more money. This is ultimately counter-productive for society; the same could be said for an extreme communist state which allows for no competition. In both cases we have situations where there is no opportunity to better oneself.

No doubt there are dangers from both sides of the political spectrum, but right now at this time, in this country, Big Business and the minority in the Far Right dominate and have upset the balance that allows for true economic and social "freedom" as reasonable people understand the word.

edit: I just noticed you had PBS and the National Endowment of Arts on there? People fund PBS and NPR, etc. of their own free will, you can't take that away...and you also added states' rights into the same sentence somehow which really makes no sense at all. The sentence is just babble.

perdidochas · #42 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Garbler

The human rights act forbids slavery in all its forms, as i see it a slave is a person who is forced to do a task with no choice and no pay. So I started to wonder, what is a student if not a young individual who is forced into doing a task with no choice and no pay and a punishment if the expected level is not attained (although they are not as severe as they once were).

Please do not reply saying that schooling is good for the nations youth, i do not dispute that, I am one of those who it is currently benifitting but i still feel that it would be interesting to find out how legal school actually is, I will be looking it up and posting it here ASAP.

18 yr olds and married kids under 18 don't have to go to school. Kids have no right to liberty, unless their parents choose to grant it to them.

perdidochas · #43 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Warpath

Garbler, I don't believe the U.S. currently recognizes the human rights act as valid, because of the socialist interpretation of human rights that is perpetuated throughout the act itself. Therefore, since the U.S. is not subject to the act, it has no reason to cease public schooling solely because of the definitions included in the act. This is not necessarily to say that public schooling is right. It is only to say that the U.N.'s human rights act is not a good source of argument against any policy, much less public schooling.

The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child says the following (emphasis added).

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Article 28
1. States Parties recognize the right of the child to education, and with a view to achieving this right progressively and on the basis of equal opportunity, they shall, in particular:
(a) Make primary education compulsory and available free to all;

(b) Encourage the development of different forms of secondary education, including general and vocational education, make them available and accessible to every child, and take appropriate measures such as the introduction of free education and offering financial assistance in case of need;

(c) Make higher education accessible to all on the basis of capacity by every appropriate means;

(d) Make educational and vocational information and guidance available and accessible to all children;

(e) Take measures to encourage regular attendance at schools and the reduction of drop-out rates.

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