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About LinkBacksSo why didn't you just stand quietly?Originally Posted by Artythizza
I went to an American school with some foreign children in attendance.
We said the Pledge of Allegiance.. they stood respectfully.
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So why didn't you just stand quietly?
I went to an American school with some foreign children in attendance.
We said the Pledge of Allegiance.. they stood respectfully.
Correspondent
Did you stand up or continue to sit during the pledge?
Did you explain to the teacher in a mature way (doubt it) why you didn't make the pledge?
Do you have a past history of disrespecting your teachers or school staff?
Did you tell the teacher before (in a mature way) that you did not believe in god at the begining of school.
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My prediction :
You probably had the right to not say you believe in god but you also acted a completly disprespectful fashion towards the teacher and ended up calling her names.
Contributor
If you don't have the right to NOT pledge allegiance to the flag, you don't live in a free country... and neither does anyone else in the US.
Sr. Correspondent
I've already voiced my opinion on this matter earlier in this thread, but this video also sums it up rather nicely.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BfqDUPL1I"]YouTube - ‪The Whitest Kids U' Know - Pledge of Allegiance‬‏[/ame]
Last edited by Sunkissed; Jun 02 2011 at 06:47 PM.
"If someone asks where the church is, then we ought to be able to answer; there, where people are emptying themselves, making themselves as nothing. There where people serve, not just a little, but in total service…And there, where the solidarity with the fellow man [and woman] is not merely preached, but is actually demonstrated.” – Hoekendijk
"You see things and you say, 'Why?' but I dream things and I say, 'Why not?'" ~ George Bernard Shaw
I say the pledge the way I learned in 1953. Here are all the "official versions" since its initial appearance.
1892
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1892 to 1923
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and to the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1923 to 1924
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1924 to 1954
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1954 to Present
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Wait...you still say the pledge of allegiance? Crap, I had no idea we were supposed to continue doing that after elementary school. They should have included that bit of instruction in the pledge itself.
"...and I pledge to continue reciting this pledge like a drone long after the brainwashing has taken a firm hold..."
As it turns out, the Donner Party wasn't actually a "party" at all.
To each their own.
To me the flag has great meaning. I was a soldier in Nam, and saw many people, including my friends, die, fighting for that flag. I respect and admire what the flag stands for, and I still pledge my support to it.
Margmot is right. Adults do things in order to be respectful of others. Children often don't.
When I travel to foreign countries I always try to show respect for the mores and customs of those countries. While I don't think it is necessary to wear long pants in church I always do when visiting churhes in Italy because to not do so would be disrespectful. When a waitress or waiter places my dish on the table I always say thank you. While it is that person's job to serve me, it is polite and respectful to say thank you.
There are many little acts adults perform every day just to be respectful of others.
In my opinion you acted like a little child, making a scene when you could have respectfully stood in silence.
Vox clamanto in deserto.
“There is no social entity with a good that undergoes some sacrifice for its own good. There are only individual people, different individual people, with their own individual lives. Using one of these people for the benefit of others, uses him and benefits the others. Nothing more.” Robert Nozick
Hats off!
Along the street there comes
A blare of bugles, a ruffle of drums,
A flash of color beneath the sky:
Hats off!
The flag is passing by!
Blue and crimson and white it shines,
Over the steel-tipped, ordered lines.
Hats off!
The colors before us fly;
But more than the flag is passing by.
Sea-fights and land-fights, grim and great,
Fought to make and to save the State:
Weary marches and sinking ships;
Cheers of victory on dying lips;
Days of plenty and years of peace;
March of a strong land's swift increase;
Equal justice, right, and law,
Stately honor and reverend awe;
Sign of a nation, great and strong
Toward her people from foreign wrong:
Pride and glory and honor,--all
Live in the colours to stand or fall.
Hats off!
Along the street there comes
A blare of bugles, a ruffle of drums;
And loyal hearts are beating high:
Hats off!
The Flag is passing by!
Vox clamanto in deserto.
“There is no social entity with a good that undergoes some sacrifice for its own good. There are only individual people, different individual people, with their own individual lives. Using one of these people for the benefit of others, uses him and benefits the others. Nothing more.” Robert Nozick
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I think its disgusting that you have to say it at all.
I think it breeds nationalism.
"An era ends when its illusions can no longer be sustained" - Arthur Miller
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