US and EU rank poorly in protecting privacy rights - Page 4

RipTheSystem · #31 (**permalink**) 01-03-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade

Oh yeah, senile Justice Douglas' infamous "penumbras" and "emanations".

If the libs rule the court again, which seems likely, what kind of constitutional jurisprudence will we get then? The constitution's "smell"? Its "vibes"??

All I see is two political factions that point the finger about violating the Constitution when it benefits one or the other's agenda. Then they give warped and distorted interpretations of the Constitution, essentially grasping at straws. Thanks!

Blade · #32 (**permalink**) 01-03-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TarBaby

I'm sure you already know it takes more than one Justice to pass a decision. In this case it had 7.

Yaaaaa - all libs.

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And seriously, Blade, you honestly don't think people have a right to be secure in their privacy? What are you, some kind of peeping tom?

Whether I think privacy is a good idea is not the issue. The issue is whether there is some constitutional right to it - there isn't, Douglas' and the other lib supremes' detection of mysterious vibrations from the Constitution to the contrary notwithstanding.

Blade · #33 (**permalink**) 01-03-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RipTheSystem

All I see is two political factions that point the finger about violating the Constitution when it benefits one or the other's agenda. Then they give warped and distorted interpretations of the Constitution, essentially grasping at straws. Thanks!

The old saying is "the supreme court follows the elections", but there is no distortion like lib court distortion, and there has been no outright conservative USSC since prior to 1953. And Roe v. Wade, the product of a lib court, will stand forever as probably the most wierdly distorted misreading of the constitution in history, and is the origin of most of the "privacy" lunacy.

Vergilius · #34 (**permalink**) 01-06-2008, 09:26 AM

I don't believe the corporations and government will ever stop chipping away at people's rights until its too late to fight back. That is when we will see 1984. The tazering at universities for asking questions, national ID cards with RFID chips, absurd acts like the "violent radicalization and homegrown terror act" as well as the "patriot act" and tons of similar bills that fly through congress. As well as the abolition of habea corpus and establishment of torture facilities. We are moving toward a police state.
The idea that violating people's privacy is ok because "if you don't commit a crime you wont get caught", is ridiculous. It is a crime against the people to videotape their every move, regardless of whether the government creates some tenet that specifies it. If not, it is the people's job to congregate in the interest of demanding their freedoms.

Most bad government has grown out of too much government.-Thomas Jefferson

Blade · #35 (**permalink**) 01-06-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vergilius

I don't believe the corporations and government will ever stop chipping away at people's rights until its too late to fight back. That is when we will see 1984. The tazering at universities for asking questions, national ID cards with RFID chips, absurd acts like the "violent radicalization and homegrown terror act" as well as the "patriot act" and tons of similar bills that fly through congress. As well as the abolition of habea corpus and establishment of torture facilities. We are moving toward a police state.
The idea that violating people's privacy is ok because "if you don't commit a crime you wont get caught", is ridiculous. It is a crime against the people to videotape their every move, regardless of whether the government creates some tenet that specifies it. If not, it is the people's job to congregate in the interest of demanding their freedoms.

Most bad government has grown out of too much government.-Thomas Jefferson

Garsh, I'm sure glad someone besides me understands the corporate/government plot to "get us". Take my advice - cover your house with aluminum foil like I did - it'll shield you from the secret rays the corporations use to suck out your vital fluids.

Vergilius · #36 (**permalink**) 01-06-2008, 09:33 AM

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Garsh, I'm sure glad someone besides me understands the corporate/government plot to "get us". Take my advice - cover your house with aluminum foil like I did - it'll shield you from the secret rays the corporations use to suck out your vital fluids.

Yeah nothing is wrong. Maybe that tinfoil blinded you somehow. But for some reason I think that you would agree to any atrocity no matter how heinous.

Blade · #37 (**permalink**) 01-06-2008, 09:40 AM

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Yeah nothing is wrong. Maybe that tinfoil blinded you somehow. But for some reason I think that you would agree to any atrocity no matter how heinous.

No, I don't! I agree with you!! Take those security cameras at walmart - now, the Holocaust was bad, but that's intolerable!!

Vergilius · #38 (**permalink**) 01-06-2008, 09:46 AM

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No, I don't! I agree with you!! Take those security cameras at walmart - now, the Holocaust was bad, but that's intolerable!!

Walmart is a private business, not a big-brother agency constantly watching its citizens and feeding the information into a central government. And the war in Iraq is every bit as bad as the holocaust. In fact it's worse if you factor in the use of depleted uranium...Besides if you have a problem with Nazis you should be against Prescott Bush who was a nazi money-launderer.