Yeah - it was awesome. Here's a video of the first three or four minutes, the `essence' of the apology itself.

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We've got rules and maps and guns in our backs, but we still can't just behave ourselves. Even if to save our own lives, we are a brutal kind. The Shins

Unlikely, but now that it's been said, these primitives can steal money from hard working people{compensation}, people who've most likely never done anything towards them.

Why don't the politicians and those on record pay up?....how the hell am I going to afford my Plasma now!!!!!

Riiiiiiiight. Primitives stealing money. I get it.

So then those people who get fat and sue McDonalds for making them that way are A-OK? Those people who willingly smoke for 30 years knowing it could kill them and then get millions in compensation from tobacco companies deserve it?? Someone talking on their mobile phone in Ikea who trips over sues the company for their knee surgery - that's ok??

But no, being ripped away from your family for the sake of ethnic cleansing (and this cannot be denied - it's written in the legislation) by a government bent on eradicating your race after over a hundred years of discriminatory legislation does not warrant compensation? It's stealing, in their case? Not becoming a citizen of your own country until more than 150 years after it is settled is ok? Being classed as `flora and fauna' for that same amount of time is ok?

Because all of those hundreds of lawsuits by self-serving idiots who have managed to find legal loop-holes and tie up our already overburdened legal system with crap apparently haven't stopped you from being able to afford your plasma - but as soon as any deserving people (especially if they're not white) perhaps might get some compensation all of a sudden it's going to affect your life and your income?

You probably enjoy your $30 a fortnight tax break immensely, and had your vote bought by Howard as a result - while the education, health, welfare, workplace and nearly every other sector in this country is neglected even though we have a several-billion dollar surplus. You probably bought your house before housing became so unaffordable in this country that nobody can get into the market - or even afford their rent, in most cases.

You probably care nothing for any humanitarian or social efforts as long as the dollars keep rolling in. Why else would you care who gets compensation? People who don't deserve it get compensation every day. Why aren't you whining and whingeing about them? Because they're white?

You are, unfortunately, the embarrassing face of Australia that Mr Howard cultivated and condoned for so long. You probably don't have the sense to be ashamed - but that's ok, the rest of us will be ashamed for you.

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We've got rules and maps and guns in our backs, but we still can't just behave ourselves. Even if to save our own lives, we are a brutal kind. The Shins

Why should I be financially responsible for the past practices and policies of others?

FYI, I think society needs an overhaul,+ I vote for the green party....I also happen to be an Objectivist philosopher of sorts, but you've probably never heard of Objectivism.

I have no time for idiots or irrational people of any colour......if you want to embarrass yourself, take an international visitor for a tour of the suburb of Inala{West Brisbane}....a suburb that has many abo residents.

The idea of apologizing for something you didn't do has always struck me as insane, but this thread has convinced me I have been wrong.

Therefore, I issue the following apologies.

Ahem!

I am of english, irish, scots, italian and german descent.

- Being of english descent I apologize to myself, and all other irish people for the Great Irish Famine. I accept my apology.

- I also apologize to myself, and all scotts, for stealing the Stone of Scone. I thank myself for my apology.

- Being of italian descent, I apologize to ethiopia for invading their country. I also apologize to somalia for setting up a colony there.

- Being of German descent, I apologize to my english self for WWII, but also remind my english self that it declared war on me first.

- Since there is a small chance I'm related to the ancient romans, I apologize to the then known world for conquering it, and the rest of my selves accept it.


I also recommend that all australians apologize to england, because their ancestors got there by breaking the law.

Finally, I recommend that all who subscribe to the lunatic notion of apologizing for what you haven't done shove that idiocy where the sun don't shine.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

Jake, why am I not surprised at your pathetic response? Back onto the ignore list you go.

David, I wouldn't be embarrassed. I don't disagree that there are several morally and behaviourally questionable indigenous people. I just also realise that they are not representative of the whole, and that this kind of behaviour and representation is not specific to a particular race - as your posts and language illustrate.

And my first degree was in Linguistics and Philosophy - so unfortunately for you I know exactly what you are talking about. It's just a fancy way of saying `I'm really selfish'. Lucky you. However, I'm not sure that you fully understand objectivism - if you did, you would fully support the rights and actions of the Aboriginal community to pursue their own self-fulfillment and happiness.

Which brings us to the next question. Why WOULD you be financially responsible for their compensation? Any more so than for any other compensation lawsuit?

There is only one person embarrassing themselves in this discussion and it isn't me.

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We've got rules and maps and guns in our backs, but we still can't just behave ourselves. Even if to save our own lives, we are a brutal kind. The Shins

I encourage them to maximize themselves, but just not at my expense, especially as I never violated them, even though they've assaulted me on numerous occasions throughout my life.....so please don't try and pretend that abo's are the little angel's you're trying to portray them as to the members of this American forum.....cause it's obvious you want America's moral approval.

And who cares whether or not every abo is a crim or a fool, what's that got to do with me supposedly owing them money?

Ahhh - the straw man. How predictable.

You still haven't answered my question - why is it YOU that owes them money? Or are you just a Today Tonight viewer who cannot make your own informed decisions about anything?

I have been around this forum a lot longer than you have. If you read any of my posts you would realise quite quickly that the last thing I am interested in is the approval of Americans. You seem to be projecting your own desires onto me.

But then - you do come across as a person who speaks before they think. But maybe typing and thinking at the same time is beyond your capabilities?

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We've got rules and maps and guns in our backs, but we still can't just behave ourselves. Even if to save our own lives, we are a brutal kind. The Shins

This seems cool to me.

Talk about pathetic?? That a person enjoys apologizing for something they didn't do could probably only be explained by an expert in abnormal psychology - it sounds like some kind of weird masochism.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847