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Old 03-03-2008, 09:17 PM
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NBA is a professional sports league.

They are in the business of winning, color of skin is not part of the equation... only talent and skill.
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NBA is a professional sports league.

They are in the business of winning, color of skin is not part of the equation... only talent and skill.
And what is academia supposed to be, an experiment of forced diversity or a professional institution for scientific progress? What is more important, basketball scores or scientific progress?
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I have no f'in idea.

What I do know is a professional sports team's main goal in life is to win so that it makes money. Color of skin doesn't matter. Skill does.
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Are blacks and women doing better in academia? No they don't, that's why we have affirmative action to force universities to take in minorities and females even if they are not qualified enough! With the NBA it should be the same, no more hypocrisy, I don't care if Chinese or other midgets are qualified for the NBA, I want to see a fair share of them and no more blacks than what is their actual percentage in the population!
What your saying is that you support affirmative action and believe minorities should not be designated by other dominating social groups in the population, but by dominating social groups in a particular occupational field.
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NBA is a professional sports league.

They are in the business of winning, color of skin is not part of the equation... only talent and skill.


And what is academia supposed to be, an experiment of forced diversity or a professional institution for scientific progress? What is more important, basketball scores or scientific progress?
Good point. EXCELLENT point. Meritocracy reigns where it doesn't matter except to an owner, sports fans, and athletes who become as rich as Croesus playing children's games, but in what should be the all-important intellectual centers of the country, what counts is skin color.
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What I do know is a professional sports team's main goal in life is to win so that it makes money. Color of skin doesn't matter. Skill does.
The same is true of all businesses. No business should be forced to hire employees based on racial quotas any more than the NBA should be forced to hire white guys.
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Are blacks and women doing better in academia? No they don't, that's why we have affirmative action to force universities to take in minorities and females even if they are not qualified enough!
Naw, that was not what i was trying to say - I wrote AA but I didn't mean it.
The universities don't have to take the direct (financial) responsibility for their admission decisions. It could decide in a racist way and still be in the same position as admiting only the best ones. So there needs to be some kind of supervising, that makes sure, the only the best students are choosen and in the case of same qualifications that not one color is prefered.

I don't think, the AA are needed at all - it's kinda racism the other way round, people are judged again upon their color.

Btw: Concerning the NBA it'd be interesting to see, how the ethnic groups are really represented, since the players are only a tiny little bit of the whole organization. That's what you (Skeptikos Examiner) ignored in your first post.
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Icon19 Here we go again.

Got a question how many of the owners in the NBA are black? One.

Since the majority of players are black according to your logic the majority of the owners should be black, which is azz backwards thinking.

You claim there are no chinese players in the league kind of shows you don't even watch the NBA ever heard of Yao Ming number one draft pick of the Houston Rockets, NBA All-Star. How about Yi Jianlian drafted by the Milwaukee Bucks. Not to mention the many players from Europe.

You get a chance read a book by William Rhoden, "40 Million Dollar Slave".


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Depends on which color has been outed, if your Anglo you have no recourse when it comes to A.A..
Where did you get that tidbit of information?

The Department of Labor's Employment Standards Administration's Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP) enforces the Executive Order 11246, as amended; Section 503 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended and the affirmative action provisions (Section 4212) of the Vietnam Era Veterans' Readjustment Assistance Act, as amended. Taken together, these laws ban discrimination and require Federal contractors and subcontractors to take affirmative action to ensure that all individuals have an equal opportunity for employment, without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability or status as a Vietnam era or special disabled veteran.

Now please show me in that statment where if you are white you can be discriminated against with no recourse.


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I think to have affirmative action for sports is ridiculous; imagine the 7 dwarfs playing basketball - give me a break
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