FBI Privacy Violations Confirmed - Page 6

PatriotNews · #51 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by maxell

according to your heroes Ann Coulter and Rush, the relatives are unamerican women who profitted from 9/11.

you guys have no backbone on this issue.

to sum up:

first you say they're only looking at foreign wire taps

then, when it comes out they are doing domestic also you say thy are only doing Americans who talk to people in other countries.

then, when it comes out they are, in fact, listening to americans talking to americans you say they shouldn't care if they have nothing to hide.

then, when it comes out the FBI was listening to people who had no ties whatsoever to terrorists you say it's ok because of we are dealing with terrorist so the constituion doesn't matter.

At what point will conservatives stop backpedaling and put their foot down on this issue. It is the conservative who keeps on moving their line in the sand....because they have no backbone.

yes, stand for something cowards.

The Jersey Girls endorsed Kerry, that's why Coulter and Limbaugh were critizing them.

When did it come out that they were listening to any Americans? I haven't seen that report. If they did, fine, prosecute them. It is a violation of the law for them to do so.

(See USSID 18.) : Communications which are known to be to, from or about U.S. PERSONS oxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx not be intentionally intercepted
http://cryptome.org/nsa-ussid18.htm

f0ca1 · #52 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotNews

When did it come out that they were listening to any Americans?

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WASHINGTON - The FBI acknowledged Wednesday it improperly accessed Americans' telephone records, credit reports and Internet traffic in 2006, the fourth straight year of privacy abuses resulting from investigations aimed at tracking terrorists and spies.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080305/..._pe/senate_fbi

f0ca1 · #53 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotNews

The Jersey Girls endorsed Kerry, that's why Coulter and Limbaugh were critizing them.

When did it come out that they were listening to any Americans? I haven't seen that report.

(See USSID 18.) : Communications which are known to be to, from or about U.S. PERSONS oxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx not be intentionally intercepted
http://cryptome.org/nsa-ussid18.htm

LOL

That pertains to the NSA, and, according your link, they did spy on Americans after 9.11

http://cryptome.org/nsa-spied-us.htm

PatriotNews · #54 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by f0ca1

LOL

That pertains to the NSA, and, according your link, they did spy on Americans after 9.11

Yeah, it says nowhere in your post that they were listening to Americans.

Quote: "accessed Americans' telephone records, credit reports and Internet traffic"

(NSA) agency ordinarily operates under tight restrictions on any spying on Americans according to the link. TY

f0ca1 · #55 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotNews

TY

So, you now understand that Americans were spied on by the NSA, and should be "fined and prosecuted."

"Ordinary restrictions" went out the window when Bush secretly lessened restrictions.

YW

PatriotNews · #56 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by f0ca1

So, you now understand that Americans were spied on by the NSA, and should be "fined and prosecuted."

"Ordinary restrictions" went out the window when Bush secretly lessened restrictions.

YW

No I don't understand that Americans were spied on by the NSA. But if they were the personnel of the NSA or FBI or whomever violated to law, should prosecuted. Why would you think the American who were spied on should be prosecuted?

f0ca1 · #57 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotNews

No I don't understand that Americans were spied on by the NSA.

Didn't read the site you linked?

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But if they were the personnel of the NSA or FBI or whomever violated to law, should prosecuted.

Nice. We agree.

superbadbrutha · #58 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotNews

(From the above referenced article) "The report is a follow-up to an audit by the inspector general a year ago that found the FBI demanded personal data on people from banks, telephone and Internet providers and credit bureaus without official authorization and in non-emergency circumstances between 2003 and 2005."

Yeah, but come on, who were the people? If it was LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer that they were looking into that would be one thing. I am quite sure they were looking into people here in the states with links to terrorists (Barak Hussien Obama comes to mind) which I would have no problem with.

How about Timothy McVeigh or Terry Nichols would you have had a problem with those names?

Probably not that is why they were able to pull-off the 2nd worst terrorist attack on US soil in US history.

E.Pluribus Unum

Hard-Driver · #59 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 08:24 PM

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/1...y-for-telcoms/

They diverted the major phone and internet backbones in this country into secret rooms for the NSA...

Yea I have a problem with that. If there is monitoring going on, it should be with a warrent.

And Tim McVeigh,,, if it meant having big brother monitor everyone in the country at all times to prevent it, then I would rather he not be monitored.

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
- Ben Franklin -

PatriotNews · #60 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hard-Driver

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
- Ben Franklin -

"We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." -

-- Benjamin Franklin

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