Thread: 2012 Mayan apocalypse miscalculation

I was hoping that my installation as Eminent Commander of the Knights Templar coincided with the End of the World...dang...and I planned on having such an awesome going away party too...clowns and everything.

Originally Posted by CoolWalker

Who in their right mind pays attention to a civilization that isn't around to backup their claim that the world is ending? Their world ended, but ours will be here for millions of years to come...unless we blow ourselves up because our governments can't get along.

The Mayans did not make these claims , neither did their calendars . Writers made them , looking for money and a Spin headline .

Originally Posted by waltky

Oldest Mayan calendar unearthed...

Mayan art and calendar at Xultun stun archaeologists
10 May 2012 - The preservation of the artwork surprised archaeologists, given the dwelling's shallow depth


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Apocalypse never: Newly discovered Mayan calendar further disproves doomsday myth
May 10, 2012 - Scientists have uncovered the oldest-known Mayan calendar ever discovered — and it further shows that all this December 21, 2012, apocalypse talk is a bunch of hooey.

I bet Santurnos old student that originally saw the calendar was maaaad!

Granny says, "Dat's right - it says in Revelation inna Bible we all gonna die an' den Jesus gonna put dem lefty lib'rals inna place where the Devil gonna be pokin' `em inna butt with his pitchfork...

2012 Doomsday: It's not just Mayan claim
22 July`12 - Countless cultures predict end-time scenario this year

An author investigating ancient prophecies is again sounding the alarm about numerous predictions suggesting 2012 could be the beginning of the “end of the age” spoken of in the Holy Bible. Last year, WND reported on Tom Horn’s efforts to let everyone to know calendars besides the ancient Mayan one predict the demise of human civilization in 2012, and he claims a demonic plot bringing about the end date could be hiding in plain sight inside the U.S. Capitol. He’s now continuing his effort to publicize the matter with speeches across the nation, providing more possible clues into when apocalyptic prophesies of the Bible might be fulfilled with the “Second Coming” of Jesus to administer the kingdom of God on Earth.

In his latest book titled “Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope Is Here,” Horn sheds light on ancient non-biblical prophecies from St. Malachy concerning the Catholic Church, and provides evidence the next pope, the one following Benedict XVI, is to be the final pontiff before the return of Jesus. “As the legend goes,” says Horn, “Malachy experienced what is today considered a famous vision commonly called ‘The Prophecy of the Popes.’ The prophecy is a list of Latin verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope, ‘Peter the Roman,’ whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome.”

While the prophecy itself does not mention the year 2012, Horn says the Vatican’s Jesuit mathematician and codebreaker Rene Thibaut wrote 61 years ago it would be fulfilled in 2012, and he adds current events at the Vatican “certainly point to the soon fulfillment of this prophecy.” When translated from Latin to English, the final segment of the prophecy reads: “In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the City of Seven Hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people.”

Horn also points to 19th century collection titled “Lectures on the Revelation” by Rev. William J. Reid, pastor of First United Presbyterian Church in Pittsburgh, Pa., which were given over a period of time ending in March 1876. An excerpt from one of the lectures published in 1878 attempts to determine the official start of the papal system, combining both temporal and spiritual authority, and states: “If it began in the year 752, and if it is to continue for one thousand two hundred and sixty years, then it is to be destroyed in the year 2012.” “Keep in mind this was published in 1878!” exclaimed Horn. “What is it about this period of time we have entered? What is it about this period of time inaugurated in 2012 that has caught the attention of so many divergent traditions?”

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Originally Posted by Independent with a voice

Now, watch as the History Channel changes Nostradamus' predicted date for the world to end along with the Mayan date to whatever the Mayan date is now, after the dust has settled. December 21, 2062 or December 21, 2112? Perhaps, it's already passed us by and we're all supposed to be dead already.

Maybe we are already dead, if Bruce Willis didn't know he was dead what hope do we have lmao

Climate change did the Mayans in...

New Evidence Links Mayan Collapse to Climate Change
November 08, 2012 - Scientists get finding after analyzing a natural mineral formation called a stalagmite from a cave in Belize

The ancient Mayan civilization, which developed a sophisticated culture in the Central American rainforests, vanished mysteriously a thousand years ago. Now, an international team of anthropologists, archeologists, chemists and climatologists says it has identified the cause of the Mayan collapse: climate change. To create a weather record for the past 2,000 years, the scientists analyzed a natural mineral formation called a stalagmite from a cave in Belize, using oxygen-isotope dating to determine how much rain fell on the region over the centuries. Stalagmites build up incrementally, like tree rings, as water drips through the cave ceiling, preserving an accurate climate record.

Mayan rulers commissioned stone monuments to record important events such as their rise to power, major battles, civic unrest and strategic alliances. Pennsylvania State University Anthropology professor Douglas Kennett, the study's co-author, says the team was able to compare changes in the society documented on those monuments with their new climate timeline. On a podcast for the journal Science, he said the team saw a relationship between rainfall levels and political stability. "The growth of Maya civilization and increases in population and levels of sophistication actually correlate with a very wet interval that spans several hundred years and the decline of the Maya actually appeared to correlate with a downturn generally in climate and climate drying," he said.

Abundant rainfall led to bumper crops and a population boom, but a climate reversal and drought triggered famine, political competition, increased warfare and eventually, the society's collapse. Scientists have long suspected that climate change played a role in the fall of the Mayan civilization, but the precise timeline - published in Science - provides them with new confidence in that connection. Kennett suggests their methodology could be used to increase understanding of the influence of climate on other ancient cultures that also have nearby cave systems.

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I get installed as Eminent Commander for my Commandery of Knights Templar on the 20th! Maybe my installation is the cause...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Yea, Uncle Ferd wantin' to know if dey need any help at dat womens prison?...

In Russia, it’s official: This isn’t the end of the world
Mon, Dec 03, 2012 - APOCALYPSE NOT NOW: One Russian official has proposed prosecuting people who spread a rumor that the world will end on Dec. 21 — starting on Dec. 22

There are scattered reports of unusual behavior from across Russia’s nine time zones. Inmates in a women’s prison near the Chinese border are said to have experienced a “collective mass psychosis” so intense that their wardens summoned a priest to calm them. In a factory town east of Moscow, panicked citizens stripped shelves of matches, kerosene, sugar and candles. A huge Mayan-style archway is being built — out of ice — on Karl Marx Street in Chelyabinsk in the south. For those not schooled in New Age prophecy, there are rumors the world will end on Dec. 21, when a 5,125-year cycle known as the Long Count in the Mayan calendar supposedly comes to a close. Russia, a nation with a penchant for mystical thinking, has taken notice.

Last week, Russia’s government decided to put an end to the doomsday talk. Its minister of emergency situations said on Friday that he had access to “methods of monitoring what is occurring on the planet Earth,” and that he could say with confidence that the world was not going to end this month. However, he acknowledged that Russians were still vulnerable to “blizzards, ice storms, tornadoes, floods, trouble with transportation and food supply, breakdowns in heat, electricity and water supply.” Similar assurances have been issued in recent days by Russia’s chief sanitary doctor, a top official of the Russian Orthodox Church, lawmakers from the State Duma and a former disc jockey from Siberia who recently placed first in the television show Battle of the Psychics. One official proposed prosecuting Russians who spread the rumor — starting on Dec. 22.

‘NEGATIVE ACTIONS’

“You cannot endlessly speak about the end of the world, and I say this as a doctor,” said Leonid Ogul, a member of parliament’s environment committee. “Everyone has a different nervous system, and this kind of information affects them differently. Information acts subconsciously. Some people are provoked to laughter, some to heart attacks, and some — to some negative actions.” Russia is not the only country to face this problem. In France, the authorities plan to bar access to Bugarach mountain in the south to keep out a flood of visitors who believe it is a sacred place that will protect a lucky few from the end of the world. The patriarch of Ukraine’s Orthodox Church recently issued a statement assuring the faithful that “doomsday is sure to come,” but that it will be provoked by the moral decline of mankind, not the “so-called parade of planets or the end of the Mayan calendar.”

In Yucatan State in Mexico, which has a large Mayan population, most place little stock in end-of-days talk. Officials are planning a Mayan cultural festival on Dec. 21 and, to show that all will be well after that, a follow-up next year. Russians can be powerfully transported by emotions, as the Reverend Tikhon Irshenko witnessed during his visit to Prison Colony No. 10 in the village of Gornoye. In an interview with the Data news service, Tikhon said he was summoned to the prison last month. The wardens told him that anxiety over the Mayan prophecy had been building for two months, and some inmates had broken out of the facility “because of their disturbing thoughts.” Some of the women were sick, or having seizures, he said. “Once, when the prisoners were standing in formation, one of them imagined that the earth yawned, and they were all stricken by fear and ran in all directions,” the priest said.

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Chinese gonna save us from the Mayan apocalypse...

‘Great Ball’ of China to save world on doomsday
Fri, Dec 14, 2012 - As people across the globe tremble in anticipation of next week’s supposed Mayan-predicted apocalypse, one Chinese villager says he may have just what humanity needs: tsunami-proof survival pods.

Camouflage-clad farmer and furniture maker Liu Qiyuan, 45, inspected his latest creation: A sphere several meters tall he calls “Noah’s Ark,” which is designed to withstand towering tsunamis and devastating earthquakes. “The pod won’t have any problems even if there are 1,000m high waves ... it’s like a ping-pong ball, its skin may be thin, but it can withstand a lot of pressure,” he told reporters at his workshop in Qiantun, an hour from Beijing. Liu’s seven completed or under construction pods are made using a fiberglass casing over a steel frame and have cost him 300,000 yuan (US$48,000) each, he said. The pods are equipped with oxygen tanks, food and water, as well as seat belts — essential for staying safe in storms, Liu said, strapping himself into position before his assistants shook the sphere vigorously from outside. “The pods are designed to carry 14 people at a time, but it’s possible for 30 people to survive inside for at least two months,” he said.

Their insulation was such that “a person could live for four months in the pod at the North or South Pole without freezing, or even feeling slightly cold,” Liu added. One of the spheres even boasts the domestic comforts of a table, bed and flowery wallpaper. Liu said he came up with the design after watching the 2009 Hollywood disaster film 2012, which is inspired by the expiry on Dec. 21 of the Mayan Long Count, a more than 5,125-year-long calendar used by the ancient Central American civilization. Apocalyptic predictions have provoked widespread fears among believers, including in China, where two rural counties sold out of candles this month after a panic that three days of darkness would begin on Dec. 21, Xinhua news agency reported. A businessman in Zhejiang Province has received 21 orders for bright yellow doomsday survival pods for 5 million yuan each, the state-run China Daily reported.

A man from China’s northwestern province of Xinjiang told reporters that he has invested all his savings, approximately US$160,000, to build a survival ark, fearing that his home will be engulfed in a doomsday flood. Chinese authorities have sought to reassure citizens, with Beijing’s police force publishing an online notice on Wednesday stating that “the so-called end of the world is a rumor” and advising citizens to use “scientific concepts.” Liu first conceived of spherical houses to withstand earthquakes, but switched his focus to survival technology after the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, which claimed nearly one-quarter of a million lives.

Liu, who is married and has a daughter, said many were skeptical when he first outlined his plans and he has not sold any of the pods, and is worried about repaying loans he took to fund his workshop. “I worked for many years without saving much money ... I invested most of my money in the pods, because it’s worth it, it’s about saving lives,” he said. Keen to demonstrate the design’s strength, he used a step-ladder to clamber inside one pod before an assistant reversed a pick-up truck into it, inflicting only a minor scratch on its surface. Peeking out of the hatch, he grinned triumphantly.

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Granny says China got their crazies too...

Man who slashed 23 kids in China feared world’s end prophecy
December 17, 2012 - The suspect who slashed 22 children in an elementary school in central China might have been paranoid about the world coming to end, authorities said on Monday. But it didn’t prevent even the usually supportive state media from saying that official response to the violent incident was “slow and cold” and that details about the case remain sketchy.

According to reports quoting the police, Min Yongjun (previously reported as Min Yingjun) is thought to have burst into an elderly woman’s house near the elementary school of Chenpeng village in Guangshan county in central China, around 7am on Friday, hitting her and stabbing her with a kitchen knife he picked up in the house. Min then rushed to the school, and allegedly knifed 23 students, before being subdued by teachers and police.

“Initial police investigation found Min, a long-term epilepsy sufferer, had been strongly psychologically affected by rumours of the upcoming end of the world predicted by ancient prophecy,” state media reported.

Rao Mingsheng, health director for Guangshan, said on Monday that none of the people injured in the attack was currently in a critical condition. Some remained locally hospitalised, while others have been transferred to bigger hospitals.

State-run Global Times newspaper made comparisons with the shootout in the US. “The two school tragedies have exposed the powerlessness of both the US and China in certain aspects of society.”

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