Thread: What happened to tax protesters?

Originally Posted by Kokomojojo

wow going back to debtor prisons huh.

You do not know the details of the particular person being discussed, unlike BLD and myself. He used to be a poster on a now defunct forum we both frequented, and was notorious in his "beliefs" concerning paying taxes. Up to the point where he started a thread about how he "threw down" in Federal Court (where he included a very detailed play by play of his insane antics in the courtroom). He disappeared from the forum not long after that......

BLD looked up his case to see what happened to him, and here we are.

"If you...examined [The 16th Amendment] carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment." - U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox 2003.

Well,obviously your ignorance is what it is all about. The fact that the 16th was never ratified,and there is no law requiring federal income taxes to be paid on your labor is no problem for "useful idiots" like yourself. You cant seem to understand some very simple concepts,like the media is controlled,and the judicial system is corrupt. Perhaps when you do,then it will make more sense to you.

Originally Posted by krew09

"If you...examined [The 16th Amendment] carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment." - U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox 2003.

Well,obviously your ignorance is what it is all about. The fact that the 16th was never ratified,and there is no law requiring federal income taxes to be paid on your labor is no problem for "useful idiots" like yourself. You cant seem to understand some very simple concepts,like the media is controlled,and the judicial system is corrupt. Perhaps when you do,then it will make more sense to you.

I'd like to see you try spouting that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in front of a judge. Many have tried. None have won. None of your condescending crap matters much as you're rotting in prison.

As a supporter of the undergrounder movement that is just living in a way ,usually untraceable cash outside of financial tracking means the IRS has, this group are morons. The best way to avoid paying taxes is to live very modestly, live on cash for everything and its unlikely if your not living in a way to draw attention (buying a new car with cash) the IRS is unlikely to know you exist. This group are directly challenging the beast and want to get arrested. Many even get new ID's enough to use over their real identities to further make prosecution hard if you don't drive, use a high end fake ID for routine uses its a good way to toss another wrench in the works.

Originally Posted by tkolter

As a supporter of the undergrounder movement that is just living in a way ,usually untraceable cash outside of financial tracking means the IRS has, this group are morons. The best way to avoid paying taxes is to live very modestly, live on cash for everything and its unlikely if your not living in a way to draw attention (buying a new car with cash) the IRS is unlikely to know you exist. This group are directly challenging the beast and want to get arrested. Many even get new ID's enough to use over their real identities to further make prosecution hard if you don't drive, use a high end fake ID for routine uses its a good way to toss another wrench in the works.

Playing within the rules of the system is perfectly acceptable and I know a few who do. They scrape by and pay very little if any taxes, and they seem perfectly happy with it. More power to them! But yeah. You're spot on. People who decide to take on the system because "they know better" is nothing but a crap ton of fail.

Originally Posted by Kokomojojo

wow going back to debtor prisons huh.

The person in question was temporarily held in jail at the behest of one judge, to be brought before another judge, for the purpose of answering why he had not yet turned over simple, legally-requested documentation of his income to the IRS.

That's not a debtor prison. No one was even stating he had a debt at that point. Just that he was illegally withholding information that would allow the IRS to determine if he had a debt.

Originally Posted by krew09

"If you...examined [The 16th Amendment] carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment." - U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox 2003.

LOL... you need to read the REAL quote here. Judge Fox was not making this point himself, he was recalling others saying it and making the argument, and then two sentences later comes to the conclusion that the 16th Amendment is, in fact, a ratified part of the Constitution.

Well,obviously your ignorance is what it is all about. The fact that the 16th was never ratified,and there is no law requiring federal income taxes to be paid on your labor is no problem for "useful idiots" like yourself.

26 U.S.C. s. 1 requires that Americans pay tax on their income, which is defined as all net gains in money that come to a person, "from whatever source". That includes money earned from labor.

You cant seem to understand some very simple concepts,like the media is controlled,and the judicial system is corrupt. Perhaps when you do,then it will make more sense to you.

This proves that conspiracy theorists have confirmation bias that impairs their judgement.

You start your post with a quote from a federal judge, then say the "judicial system is corrupt," implying, of course, that they are all corrupt, except for this one who happend to say something you think is in your favor.

That's the essence of the conspiracy theorist and the psychological defect of confirmation bias - you accept evidence that supposedly confirms your preordained theory, and reject everything else.