Thread: Hawaii responds to Bennett's Obama birth records request

I dont get why leftys are crying when someone enforces the law?

Its the law, its no big deal.

HI will send him the docs, and that will be that.

Originally Posted by James Cessna

What is the big deal about providing a legitimate birth certificate and what does Barack Obama have to hide?

Most of the liberals in this group do not practice the art of common sense.

If he were indeed born in the USA, have the hospital provide a legitimate copy of his official birth certificate and we'll be done with all the questions! Let's also see the admission records that show his mother was actually in the hospital on the day Obama has born.

it's not a big deal to provide a certified birth certificate. that's why obama has provided one already.

and you realize of course that hospitals don't provide birth certificates right? the department of health provides them.

Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable

I dont get why leftys are crying when someone enforces the law?

Its the law, its no big deal.

HI will send him the docs, and that will be that.

what law? where is it written that a birth certificate must be provided?

and, no, hawaii will not send him the docs, because they have no legal authority to do so.

Originally Posted by DonGlock26

Hawaii responds to Bennett's Obama birth records request


PHOENIX -- The state of Hawaii has responded to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett’s request for proof that President Barack Obama was in fact born in the Aloha State.
The Hawaii attorney general’s office has reportedly told Bennett that there are steps he needs to take in order to confirm President Obama’s birth records.
Those steps include Bennett proving that he legitimately needs confirmation in order to update the records at his office.
Bennett recently said in an interview with KFYI that he had asked Hawaii to further verify the President’s birth.
Bennett said he would consider removing President Obama’s name from the ballot during this year’s presidential election if Hawaii didn’t fulfill his request.
Bennett stated that he is not a “birther,” and believes that President Obama was born in the United States.
He went on to explain that he had received about 1,200 emails from Arizona voters who are concerned about President Obama’s birth records, and felt it was his duty to follow up.
President Obama released his birth certificate last year after some people questioned whether he was actually born in Hawaii.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been investigating the President’s birth certificate since last August. Arpaio has said that his investigation is still ongoing.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Hawaii-...152213005.html

This should be interesting. I wonder, if HI will give the AZ Sec of state a copy of the original BC or its microfiche image? I wonder, if it would match what the WH released?


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They don't have to give him a copy of anything, they can simply verify via written communication.

Barring that, once Bennett proves that he is making a legitimate request, Hawaii will provide him with a COLB, the prima facie proof that Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore a natural born citizen.

The birthers are NEVER going to get what they think they should get which they don't know what it is because they haven't even seen it.

Originally Posted by DonGlock26

This should be interesting. I wonder, if HI will give the AZ Sec of state a copy of the original BC or its microfiche image? I wonder, if it would match what the WH released?


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Since Arizona hasn't asked for a copy of the birth certificate, but confirmation of President Obama's birth records, I would be surprised if Hawaii sent a copy of the Birth Certificate.

If Bennett wanted a copy of the original birth certificate, he could have asked President Obama to supply one, or asked President Obama to ask Hawaii to send him one. But he didn't do that. Hawaiian law allows for 'verification in lieu of a certified copy, but only under specific circumstances provided for by Hawaiian law.

Bennett apparently hasn't convinced Hawaii that he meets those requirements.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...rth/55070008/1

Wisch says Hawaii state laws require Bennett to show legal authority that this office needs the records to update its official lists as part of its ordinary work.

Wisch says as soon as Bennett gives Hawaii adequate authority, the Aloha State will verify Obama's birth


Of course Bennett could just ask all the candidates to provide certified copies of their birth certificates...but perhaps he is worried that Mitt can't provide one?

wonder if they need the same documentation form Romney's place of birth, obviously this is a new policy for AZ, are they applying it to ALL candidates equally?

Originally Posted by Lowden Clear

So Bennett isn't a Birther. Not so sure about that but he has a duty to make sure things are done right. It seems to me when the SOS requests proof of something in order for him to do his job correctly, HI should comply. HI is saying the request is not legitimate and that Bennett must provide proof of legitimacy for asking a question about the legitimacy of Obama's birth. This is insane.

It is insane that the State of Hawaii follow its own laws?

But if Bennett wants an official confirmation of Obama's birth records by the State of Hawaii, and doesn't feel like waiting, it is available here:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011
HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...ate_042711.pdf

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

It is insane that the State of Hawaii follow its own laws?

But if Bennett wants an official confirmation of Obama's birth records by the State of Hawaii, and doesn't feel like waiting, it is available here:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011
HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...ate_042711.pdf

What do you think would happen if the came out and said "All right, You got us. They're fakes"?

Originally Posted by James Cessna

What is the big deal about providing a legitimate birth certificate and what does Barack Obama have to hide? ]

As you well know James, Obama is the only candidate who has provided a legitimate birth certificate- so the question should be- what does Mitt have to hide- I mean if you thought not seeing a birth certificate was relevant.

But dont' get distracted James- Bennett isn't asking for a birth certificate- he is asking Hawaii to verify what it has already verified- you remember when.

Originally Posted by James Cessna

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Most of the liberals in this group do not practice the art of common sense.

If he were indeed born in the USA, have the hospital provide a legitimate copy of his official birth certificate and we'll be done with all the questions! Let's also see the admission records that show his mother was actually in the hospital on the day Obama has born.

Unlike the whackjob birthers, we liberals have the common sense to know that when Birthers demand proof from only one candidate and not the other that the reasons are political. Especially when you make that claim James.

What you probably know, but just are trying to spread misinformation about- Hospitals dont' have official birth certificates- the appropriate government agency has those. And the official birth certificate show Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Oh and admission records of his mother in the hospital? Just like Birthers said they 'only needed a birth certificate that showed the doctor and hospital' until they got one- if you ever saw admission records for his mother, then you would demand proof that she was actually there.

Birthers are only interested in proving Obama was not born in the U.S.. Anything else is not acceptable.

Right James?

Originally Posted by SFJEFF

Since Arizona hasn't asked for a copy of the birth certificate, but confirmation of President Obama's birth records, I would be surprised if Hawaii sent a copy of the Birth Certificate.

If Bennett wanted a copy of the original birth certificate, he could have asked President Obama to supply one, or asked President Obama to ask Hawaii to send him one. But he didn't do that. Hawaiian law allows for 'verification in lieu of a certified copy, but only under specific circumstances provided for by Hawaiian law.

Bennett apparently hasn't convinced Hawaii that he meets those requirements.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...rth/55070008/1

Wisch says Hawaii state laws require Bennett to show legal authority that this office needs the records to update its official lists as part of its ordinary work.

Wisch says as soon as Bennett gives Hawaii adequate authority, the Aloha State will verify Obama's birth


Of course Bennett could just ask all the candidates to provide certified copies of their birth certificates...but perhaps he is worried that Mitt can't provide one?

exactly, why not require it of all candidates, why not require republicans to do the same?