If one cares to examine the record, one will see that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson has lied on more than one occassion. In fact, he lied to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for their Report on the U.S. Intelligence of Prewar Iraq:

Pages 43-44 of the Report:

".....When the former Ambassador spoke to Committee staff, his description of his findings differed from the DO Intelligence report and his account and his account of the information provided to him by the CIA differed from the CIA's officials accounts in some respects. First, the former Ambassador described his findings to Committee staff as more directly related to Iraq, and, specifically, both as refuting the possibility that Niger could have sold uranium to Iraq and that Iraq approached Niger to purchase uranium. The intelligence report described how the structure of Niger's uranium mines made it difficult, if not impossible, for Niger to sell uranium to any rogue states, but did not refute the possibility that Iraq had approached Niger to purchase uranium. Secondly, the former Ambassador said he discussed with his CIA contacts, which names and signature should have appeared on documentation of a legitimate uranium transaction. In fact, the intelligence report made no mention of the alleged Iraq/Niger uranium transaction or signatures that should have appeared on any documentation of such a deal. The only mention of Iraq in the report pertained to the meeting between the Iraqi delegation and former Prime Minister Mayaki. Third, the former Ambassador noted that his CIA contacts told him there were documents pertaining to the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium transaction and that the source of the information was the intelligence service. The DO Reports Officer told the Committee Staff that they did not provide the former Ambassador with any information about the source or details of the original reporting as it would have required sharing Classified information, and, noted that there were no "documents" circulating at the IC at the time of the former Ambassador's trip, only intelligence reports from intelligence regarding an alleged Iraq-Niger uranium deal. Meeting notes and other correspondence show that details of the reporting were discussed at the meeting of February 12, 2002, but none of the meeting participants recall telling the former Ambassador the source of the report.

(U) The former ambassador also told Committee staff that he was the source of a Washington Post article ("CIA Did Not Share Doubt On Iraq Data: Bush Used Report of Uranium Bid," June 12, 2003) which said, "among the Envoy's conclusions was that the documents may have been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong." Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclousion that the "dates were wrong and the names were wrong" when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were on the reports. The former ambassador said that he may have "misspoken" to the reporter when he said he concluded the documents were "forged." He also said he may have become confused about his own recollection after the International Atomic Energy Agency reported in March 2003 that the names and dates on the documents were not correct and may have thought he had seen the names himself. The former ambassador reitereated that he had been able to collect the names of the government officials which should have been on the documents."

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/US%20Report.pdf

I urge all of you who haven't yet read it....to read the portion of this report pertaining to Joseph Wilson's testimony before the Committee. His account is full of lies, exaggerations and information that he could not have gotten any other way EXCEPT through his CIA wife who had access to the Classified information. IF Patrick Fitzgerald is worth anything, he should be looking into these lies and the possibility that Wilson by doing all this, actually "outed" his own wife. Not to mention, she may have broken laws and shared Classified info with hubby.

And yet.....the silence on this in the media is defeaning.

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Joseph Wilson also lied in all his newspaper accounts about the details of his trip to Niger. He said in all his newspaper accounts that he made the decision it was "highly unlikely" that any sales of uranium from Niger to Iraq had taken place. But this wasn't even what he was sent to find out. He was sent to find out if any ATTEMPTS had been made. And he found just that. in fact, on page 46 of the Senate Select Committee report....linked above, they state......."The reports officer said that a "good" grade was merited because the information responded to at least some of the outstanding questions in the Intelligence Community, but did not provide substantial new information. He said he judged that the most important fact in the report was that the Nigerian officials admitted that the Iraqi delegation had traveled there in 1999, and that the Nigerian Prime Minister believed the Iraqis were interested in purchasing uranium, because this provided some confirmation of foreign government service reporting."

IC analysts had a fairly consistent response to the intelligence report based on the former ambassador's trip in that no one believed it added a great deal of new information to the Iraq-Niger uranium story. An INR analyst said when he saw the report he believed that it corroborated the INR's position, but said that the "report could be read in different ways." He said the report was credible, but did not give it a lot of attention because he was very busy with other things.

DIA and CIA analysts said that when they saw the intelligence report they did not believed that it supplied much new information and did not think that it clarified the story on the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium deal. They did not find Nigerian denials that they had discussed uranium sales with Iraq as very surprising because they had no expectation that Niger would admit to such an agreement if it did exist. The analysts did, however, find it interesting that the former Nigerian Prime Minister said an Iraqi delegation had visited Niger for what he believed was the discuss uranium sales.

Because CIA analysis did not believe that the report added any new information to clarify the issue, they did not use the report to produce any further analytical products or highlight the report for policymakers. For the same reason, CIA's briefer did not brief the Vice President on the report, despite the Vice President's previous questions about the issue."


So......Joseph Wilson starts by being the unnamed source of a hit piece on the administration....where he lied and where he claimed he'd been sent by the VP's office and implied they lied about what he found. And YET....they were NOT SUPPOSED to defend themselves? They were NOT SUPPOSED to find out who this guy was......who really sent him....what his motives were for lying.......etc? Even though, they were being bombarded by the press who were demanding to know as well?????

I tell ya: I don't know how this thing will turn out. But IMHO, from all I've read.......it's the Wilson's who have broken laws here and have some explaining to do.

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"If the President simply adds a couple of Republican solutions to a trillion dollar health care package that the American people don't support, it isn't bi-partisan. It's political cover," Rep Eric Cantor (R-Va.)

just let the courts decide


take cover something is abou to hit the fan.

Nov 2nd 2005 will be a dour anniversary!

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Attack Wilson.
Attack the delay prosecutor.
Attack attack attack.

What is so stupid is that people actually fall for this stuff. Ummm. what about the fact the Niger documents proved forged. What about the fact about Delays funneling of money illegally. I notice how you are great at attacking the messenger, and totally ignoring the fact the messages are still true.

Nice republican tatic. It is shame it works on most too.

We don't "fall" for anything. We do lots of research and reading about the cases. If you do.....you'll see what we see.



Has nothing to do with Joseph Wilson. He was sent to see if any "attempts had been made by Iraq to purchase uranium from Niger. And he found out that was the case. Read the Senate Select Committee Report., page 43-46. Even though he lied about it to the Committee and in news articles he sourced.


It isn't. And you're about to find that out soon.


My beliefs are ALL about the facts of the cases. I've read a lot about them and studied them. Your beliefs are all about your hate for the Bush administration.

Try reading the Senate Select Committee Report. Try reading about Texas' law on corporate money....and/or CFR laws pertaining to the practice.

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"If the President simply adds a couple of Republican solutions to a trillion dollar health care package that the American people don't support, it isn't bi-partisan. It's political cover," Rep Eric Cantor (R-Va.)

DeLay funnelling money illegally is a fact? Did I miss the trial or something?

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"DeLay funnelling money illegally is a fact? Did I miss the trial or something?"

You forget, Rebellion, Texas Democrats don't have trials, they have Inquisitions.
But even Inquisitors sometimes get hung.

Time will tell.

Well, Tom Delay's lawyer is a Democrat from Texas too. And he thinks what Ronnie Earle is doing is absolutely disgusting and partisan as h-e-l-l.

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"If the President simply adds a couple of Republican solutions to a trillion dollar health care package that the American people don't support, it isn't bi-partisan. It's political cover," Rep Eric Cantor (R-Va.)

It was someone in the admin who committed the crime.

tough titties.

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What crime?

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