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Sen. Corzine.....who bought his Senate seat by spending millions of his own money, has now bought himself a Governorship for a mere $35 million. And isn't it ironic that this "rich" man voted FOR the McCain-Feingold Campaing Finance Reform Bill which limits everyone else's spending on campaigns.

What a crock!
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:42 PM
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but bush never does. he did notbuy turkey for billions of US dollars andhe never bought pakistan. bush is the honest one thats all that matters. GOP never bought anying for political purposes, they just get elected because they believe in jesus and jesus helps them......

so its ok...
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Why single out Corzine?

http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topraces.asp

John Thune bought his seat for a mere $16 million.

Arlen Specter bought his seat for $22 million

Richard Burr bought his seat for $13 million.

Mel Martinez bought his for $12 million.

If you look at the 10 most-expensive Senate races in 2004, the top 4 were "bought" by Republicans. The bottom 6 were bought by Democrats.

Corzine spends a lot of money on his campaigns. His $60 million for his Senate campaign was mind-boggling. But I don't see the point in singling him out for the governor's race. Heck, the Republican loser in Virginia, Kilgore, raised $22 million. And Corzine's opponent also financed his campaign from his personal wealth -- though only to the tune of about $15 million.

Money distorts politics. But Corzine is hardly unique.
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Why single out Corzine?

http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topraces.asp

John Thune bought his seat for a mere $16 million.

Arlen Specter bought his seat for $22 million

Richard Burr bought his seat for $13 million.

Mel Martinez bought his for $12 million.

If you look at the 10 most-expensive Senate races in 2004, the top 4 were "bought" by Republicans. The bottom 6 were bought by Democrats.

Corzine spends a lot of money on his campaigns. His $60 million for his Senate campaign was mind-boggling. But I don't see the point in singling him out for the governor's race. Heck, the Republican loser in Virginia, Kilgore, raised $22 million. And Corzine's opponent also financed his campaign from his personal wealth -- though only to the tune of about $15 million.

Money distorts politics. But Corzine is hardly unique.
Yes...but Corzine was being singled out only because of his win yesterday. He is the most current one. That's why I brought him up.

And I think it's horrible that these rich guys....Dems or Republicans can now buy themselves these positions. I liked it better before McCain-Feingold's CFR. All that did....and I said this back before it was even passed......is to stop the average American from participating. I think it's unconstitutional. I think it was passed to make the Senators look like they were trying to clean up politics......when really they were not. And they knew it. It's another one of those laws that only make things worse; not better.
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Fair enough. Campaign financing is a complicated nut to crack. I almost prefer having millionaires financing their own elections because at least they aren't beholden to anyone. But clearly that would make government rather unrepresentative of the population.
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And it would mean that only the rich can hold elected positions in this country. I don't think any of us want that. And it's very far away from how the forefathers wanted it to be.
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Default Forrester the RepUB candidate was not exactly a pauper eith

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sO HE OUTSPENT fORRESTER ???? Forrester the RepUB candidate was not exactly a pauper either !!!!!! I DO NOT KNOW WHAT fORRESTER SPENT BUT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING !!Of course he lost so
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Default money in a political campaign was freedom of speech !!!!

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And it would mean that only the rich can hold elected positions in this country. I don't think any of us want that. And it's very far away from how the forefathers wanted it to be.
I do recall that the Repubs said that the use of and the contribution of money in a political campaign was freedom of speech !!!!

Corzine spoke louder I guess!!!!!
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Default How about Bloomberg using his millions in NYC

How about Bloomberg using his billions in NYC ? anyone want to complain about that ?
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And it would mean that only the rich can hold elected positions in this country. I don't think any of us want that. And it's very far away from how the forefathers wanted it to be.
I do recall that the Repubs said that the use of and the contribution of money in a political campaign was freedom of speech !!!!

Corzine spoke louder I guess!!!!!
I don't care how much of these rich guys personal money they want to blow on their campaigns. What I think is unfair is that the rest of us.....including corporations and unions have had limits placed on them. So, what has that caused? Well....it's caused all these 529's and other ways to get around it. CFR has NOT gotten big money.....or influence......out of government. All it's done is stifle certain people's freedom of speech.....while leaving it untouched for others. It's unconstitutional.
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