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Default Anti-War Activist Taken Hostage

So....do you think the terrorists will show them some mercy for being "anti-war" activists?


Video appears to show 4 Western hostages 37 minutes ago


DUBAI (Reuters) - An unknown Iraqi group issued a video showing four Western hostages, calling them "spies of occupying forces," Al Jazeera television reported on Tuesday.

The video from the group calling itself Swords of Truth showed four men sitting on the ground. The name of Norman Kember, could be read on a British passport shown in the video.

The Briton was among four aid workers -- including two Canadians and an American -- who were snatched in Baghdad on Saturday.

Al Jazeera did not say if the tape included a threat against the men's lives. It said the group accused the men of being "spies working for the occupying forces" while working for a Christian group.

The four hostages were working for peace and humanitarian group Christian Peacemaker Teams, one of the few remaining aid groups operating in Iraq. "

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Is this a proselytizing group, or what is their work?
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They are "peace" activists.
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Human rights workers - they wont be touched, I would think (and hope).
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Human rights workers - they wont be touched, I would think (and hope).

Oh yeah, right, Nawbut. Cause we all know that the terrorists have such respect for "human rights." I guess hog-tying someone and cutting their head off is a human right, eh?

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Human rights workers - they wont be touched, I would think (and hope).

Oh yeah, right, Nawbut. Cause we all know that the terrorists have such respect for "human rights." I guess hog-tying someone and cutting their head off is a human right, eh?

Are you for real?
Dont tell me that some part of you actually wishes for the gruesome beheading of these 'peaceniks', so that it might in some way affirm your judgements of their kidnappers? You seem to have an almost equally healthy contempt for both kidnappers and kidnapped. What an odd expending of bile...a kind of discriminate splaying of emotional vomit...charming..
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the terrorists dont believe that people dont have human rights, that doesnt mean that they're wrong. Maybe we dont? Maybe they arent convinced by the argument for human rights?
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the terrorists dont believe that people dont have human rights, that doesnt mean that they're wrong. Maybe we dont? Maybe they arent convinced by the argument for human rights?
Printer2 - I dont know if I am following you here....if they dont believe that we dont have human rights??....this would mean that they do believe that we do have human rights ...but this is followed by, "maybe we dont?". This, though, is simply missing the point, I believe.

Because I dont think the grounds used for the their moral justifications of their actions are much different to our own; the processes at work, that is. If they do something violent, vicious or hideous to another human being they will try to justify it by saying that he/she was threatening them, or that he/she was guilty of some crime which required their 'punishment' or they will just make some silly sh*t up about their violence/guilt/threat and go ahead and commit their gruesome act anyway.

Its the human's way of tricking themselves (and others) into believing that just because I saw-off-his-head, or blow-up-all-the-children-in-that-town - it doesnt really make me a bad person, does it? I had my reasons....
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Default I checked out the group's web site

I checked out the group's web site. Their primary objective is compromising Israeli and US military operations by actively engaging them in peaceful obstructionism (laying down in front of military vehicles, etc.) They're a very small, far leftist group, comprised primarily of folks from the Brethren and Quaker churches, and some other lesser-known Christian churches. They are pro-Palestinian and very much anti-Israel. Their group's official position is to offer no fight should they be captured.
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whoops! nawbut, that was a complete typo. I meant to say that the terrorists " don't believe that we have rights." lol
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