Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > General Political Chat > Current Events


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:07 AM
MolonLabe2009 MolonLabe2009 is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,131
usa
MolonLabe2009 has disabled reputation
Credits: 5,226
Default

Instead of campaigning, Obama should be a leader and lead.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:09 AM
EZ-E's Avatar
EZ-E EZ-E is offline
Analyst
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Everywhere
Age: 43
Posts: 2,349
usa us maryland
EZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond reputeEZ-E has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 12,728
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP5 View Post
I am not a birther. But I don't see they are any different than those on the left who claimed Pres. Bush wasn't the legitimate president.....OR those on the left who continuously claimed that he had not served honorably in the U.S. Military. Both went on for 8 years. And I don't recall any Democrat leaders dismissing it either.....as Republican leaders have dismissed this claim against Obama. Nor do I recall Pres. Bush ever taking a shot at any of them either----unless in a joke at the Press Club or something like that. Not a serious shot as this was.





Obama takes shot at birthers in speech to prayer breakfast


By Jordan Fabian - 02/04/10 10:11 AM ET
During an address Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast, President Barack Obama said critics should not question his citizenship.
"Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith — or, for that matter, my citizenship," Obama said, drawing chuckles and a round of applause from some of the nearly 4,000 attendees at the Washington Hilton.


"Birthers" who question whether Obama is a U.S. citizen have raised questions about his birth certificate since the 2008 campaign. Even after proof has been offered of Obama's birth in Hawaii, some critics have questioned its legitimacy. Most mainstream politicians have dismissed questions about whether Obama is a citizen.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ot-at-birthers

And BTW, much as the president would have the public believe otherwise with his statement.....MOST people DO question his policies and not the other things he mentions. Those are red herrings designed to demonize anybody who dares question him over his policies.
You beat me to the punch. I was going to post a thread on this but this information coming from WND.com. I wonder if the liberals will take your link into account, but dismiss the link from WND covering the same information?

At any rate, where does it state that we CANNOT question his faith or his policies? I can question any (*)(*)(*)(*) thing I want to about Obama. His faith and his policies need to be questioned because he is destroying the country, and quite literally, already has.

What's this? I just heard that the House just passed raising the debt ceiling another 1.9 Trillion.

You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna gather up my kids, and celebrate them having to pay about 90 percent of their paychecks in the future to pay off this idiot's destruction of our society and debt.
__________________
A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. ~ Alexander Hamilton
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:17 AM
Southpaw's Avatar
Southpaw Southpaw is offline
Site Moderator
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,183
Southpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond reputeSouthpaw has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 53,740
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP5 View Post
"Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith — or, for that matter, my citizenship," Obama said, drawing chuckles and a round of applause from some of the nearly 4,000 attendees at the Washington Hilton.
The man has a point. Too many people mindlessly focus on things that now don't matter instead of honestly engaging in the issues. They focus on things like the color of his skin, his supposed religion, and his supposed birthplace instead of critiquing his views on the efficacy of government, the level of influence government should have in a private citizen's life, and the amount of support the federal government should extend to certain individuals.

My point is that there are much more important things to be mindlessly stubborn out [ ] than his birthplace, supposed religion, or skin color. Let's argue about those, ok?

It doesn't bother me that he said this. Overall, it sounds like it was a single line in a speech composed of many lines. It's not a big deal. He could have chosen a better place to make that remark... but overall, if that's all we have to discuss right now [which it isn't....] then we are doing pretty good.
__________________
"Nah, bring the amber lamps."
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:22 AM
LeonCoDem's Avatar
LeonCoDem LeonCoDem is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tallahassee, Florida
Posts: 3,700
usa us florida
LeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond reputeLeonCoDem has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 13,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhffmn View Post
He just had idiots like Rossie O'Donnel embarassing themselves on TV with wack job conspiracy theories accusing the man of the mass murder of the 9/11 attacks. The two aren't even comparable.
And is there a reason you are introducing another obscure point to the thread beyond the two JP5 brought up? This tends to muddle and complicate her post and points she presented.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MolonLabe2009 View Post
Instead of campaigning, Obama should be a leader and lead.
And it would help if you didn't throw out bait and instead discussed the topic.
__________________
My political compass
My home page

Progressivism always wins in the long run. Always!

Last edited by LeonCoDem; 02-04-2010 at 11:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:24 AM
JP5's Avatar
JP5 JP5 is offline
Site Moderator
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,281
us texas
JP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 205,158
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTeamBomber View Post
I'm sorry you don't see the difference.

In one instance, the majority of American citizens (50.6% to be exact), during a time of active democracy (not a civil war/revolution, or otherwise) voted a person into the office of presidency, only to see the Supreme court appoint someone ELSE to the position, only to see that person become of the worst presidents in history.
That's not true. The SC did not appoint anybody. The SC didn't decide. They sent it back to Florida and told them they had erred in their decisions....which BTW, the liberal Chief Justice of Florida had already told his colleagues in his Dissenting Opinion. Bottom line was.....you can't pick and choose a recount based on where you think you're extra votes might be. And that's what Al Gore tried to do. Bush won every recount there was.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTeamBomber View Post
In the other instance, a very small fringe of acknowledged, admitted political opponents of a person created a fabricated myth about the origins of someones birth, based COMPLETELY on circumstantial evidence and hearsay, going as far as to fabricate a fake piece of key evidence (lest we forget the forged certificate that was ADMITTED as a forgery by that fringe group) in order to attempt to refuse his position as our president.
You are exactly right: a "very small fringe." NOT the mainstream majority of Republicans by far. That was my point all along. However, with Bush's military controversy---there were tons of liberal press and liberal shows like CBS, MSNBC, and others who tried to destroy him. Even to the point of a national anchor, Dan Rather, being a party to "forged" papers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTeamBomber View Post
I think those are pretty freaking HUGE differences. They would be similar if that fabricated birth certificate had caused the supreme court to once again invalidate the majority vote of the public, and instate John McCain as the president, instead of the person that got the majority vote of the people. That would be one in the same.
Liberal spin; nothing to do with reality as explained above.

I don't believe in the birther controversy. I know no other Republicans who do. And yet, Obama likes to continue bringing it up for one reason only: to demonize ALL Republicans over it. That is pathetic.
__________________
"If the President simply adds a couple of Republican solutions to a trillion dollar health care package that the American people don't support, it isn't bi-partisan. It's political cover," Rep Eric Cantor (R-Va.)
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:24 AM
micfranklin's Avatar
micfranklin micfranklin is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Age: 22
Posts: 1,607
usa us maryland
micfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond reputemicfranklin has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 4,898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP5 View Post
And BTW, much as the president would have the public believe otherwise with his statement.....MOST people DO question his policies and not the other things he mentions. Those are red herrings designed to demonize anybody who dares question him over his policies.
Does everyone here know that?
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:24 AM
get over it get over it is offline
Banned
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,712
get over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond reputeget over it has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 11,999
Default Hilarious! It's all about the chin!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
He looked extremely arrogant when he made that statement and leaned back a little to wait for the crowd's reaction. A moment of awkward silence followed by a smattering of laughter and a tiny bit of applause.
It's obvious Obama still believes it's all about HIM. When that nose goes up in the air, he might as well be saying, "I'm better than the rest of you peons."

Vanity, thy name is Barack.
Ignorance and pettiness, thy party is of the con persuasion.

They have nothing worth a frick, so it's an endless stream of diluted poo poo to be offered.
Then, when he speaks directly to the lowest in society they call foul
Yes, that's the attitudes we want back in power.

Keep up the off target vindictiveness sour grape kool-aiders, maybe the connies will discover worthiness one day
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:27 AM
Larry Dickman Larry Dickman is offline
Banned
Sr. Correspondent
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Inside the Wicker Man
Posts: 531
usa us virginia
Larry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond reputeLarry Dickman has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 2,866
Default

Where are all these alleged "birthers"??????? LMAO- this is a straw man Barry and friends can use for their own advantage. Birthers re as relevant as code pink, and as common as a white whale, but bringing them up in conversation allows for Barry and MESSNBC to paint his opposition as a whole as "out of touch".

So weak.

Last edited by Larry Dickman; 02-04-2010 at 11:28 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:29 AM
Smartmouthwoman's Avatar
Smartmouthwoman Smartmouthwoman is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 5,010
usa us texas
Smartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond reputeSmartmouthwoman has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 46,752
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by get over it View Post
Ignorance and pettiness, thy party is of the con persuasion.

They have nothing worth a frick, so it's an endless stream of diluted poo poo to be offered.
Then, when he speaks directly to the lowest in society they call foul
Yes, that's the attitudes we want back in power.

Keep up the off target vindictiveness sour grape kool-aiders, maybe the connies will discover worthiness one day
I don't have a clue what you just said, GOI. Was there a point? (Besides blaming Bush, of course... I'm sure you'll get to that here shortly)
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 02-04-2010, 11:29 AM
JP5's Avatar
JP5 JP5 is offline
Site Moderator
Guru
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,281
us texas
JP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond reputeJP5 has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 205,158
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP5 View Post
I am not a birther. But I don't see they are any different than those on the left who claimed Pres. Bush wasn't the legitimate president.....OR those on the left who continuously claimed that he had not served honorably in the U.S. Military. Both went on for 8 years. And I don't recall any Democrat leaders dismissing it either.....as Republican leaders have dismissed this claim against Obama. Nor do I recall Pres. Bush ever taking a shot at any of them either----unless in a joke at the Press Club or something like that. Not a serious shot as this was.




Obama takes shot at birthers in speech to prayer breakfast


By Jordan Fabian - 02/04/10 10:11 AM ET
During an address Thursday at the National Prayer Breakfast, President Barack Obama said critics should not question his citizenship.
"Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith — or, for that matter, my citizenship," Obama said, drawing chuckles and a round of applause from some of the nearly 4,000 attendees at the Washington Hilton.


"Birthers" who question whether Obama is a U.S. citizen have raised questions about his birth certificate since the 2008 campaign. Even after proof has been offered of Obama's birth in Hawaii, some critics have questioned its legitimacy. Most mainstream politicians have dismissed questions about whether Obama is a citizen.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ot-at-birthers

And BTW, much as the president would have the public believe otherwise with his statement.....MOST people DO question his policies and not the other things he mentions. Those are red herrings designed to demonize anybody who dares question him over his policies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Southpaw View Post
The man has a point. Too many people mindlessly focus on things that now don't matter instead of honestly engaging in the issues. They focus on things like the color of his skin, his supposed religion, and his supposed birthplace instead of critiquing his views on the efficacy of government, the level of influence government should have in a private citizen's life, and the amount of support the federal government should extend to certain individuals.

My point is that there are much more important things to be mindlessly stubborn out [ ] than his birthplace, supposed religion, or skin color. Let's argue about those, ok?

It doesn't bother me that he said this. Overall, it sounds like it was a single line in a speech composed of many lines. It's not a big deal. He could have chosen a better place to make that remark... but overall, if that's all we have to discuss right now [which it isn't....] then we are doing pretty good.
Who brings up his skin color? You mean like Chris Matthews? Joe Biden? Other Dems who have done so?

This is what he wants everybody to believe when he states things like this......that nobody is discussing his policies....after all, they are so great how could anybody condemn or criticize them, right? But he's only trying to change the subject. He knows full-well that MOST people ARE criticizing his policies. He knows full-well, the birther group is small and insignificant. SHAME on him for trying to spin it against ALL Republicans. And by someone who claims he wants to get back to "civility," no less. So, what's stopping him from being civil???
__________________
"If the President simply adds a couple of Republican solutions to a trillion dollar health care package that the American people don't support, it isn't bi-partisan. It's political cover," Rep Eric Cantor (R-Va.)

Last edited by JP5; 02-04-2010 at 11:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CENTCOM boss (Gen. Petraeus) takes mindless shot at USAF. Herkdriver Warfare / Military 6 08-25-2009 06:24 AM
The birthers birthday card to President Obama Iriemon Humor & Satire 2 08-06-2009 07:58 AM
Biden Takes a SHot at the TOTUS...lmao camp_steveo Current Events 13 05-28-2009 09:08 AM
Family Guy takes a shot at GOP Ticket. E_Pluribus_Venom Humor & Satire 6 10-20-2008 08:57 AM
Hillary takes a shot at Blackwell bluerose Elections & Campaigns 2 07-13-2006 09:57 AM

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden