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Old 02-09-2010, 04:29 AM
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the parallel to me is clear. cons made exploiting personal idiosyncracies and fears acceptable, as my link demonstrates. this guy is simply carrying on that philosophy. i don't see where my reasoning has gone astray here. why don't you explain to me how if this guy is listening to cons, that he's not just taking your lessons to heart. he's just applying them to someone you would rather your torture techniques not be applied to.

cons are on record saying fake drowning is an acceptable form of interrogation. ditto stress positions/being forced to be smeared in your own waste (do i need to re-post that horrific picture of the guy from abu ghraib covered in feces? that's what happens in stress positions -- you urinate and defecate yourself). ditto finding out what your victim's deepest fears are and exploiting them.

cons are on record saying all these things are ok. so sorry your disciples are applying these lessons to victims you never intended. but hey, no one ever said publicly endorsing torture would be easy, ethically.
Do you realize how idiotic you sound in your last series of posts?

I suppose you would blame Conservatives if some nutcase murders a doctor who performs abortions just because Conservatives have said that abortion is bad, eh?

Do you even believe in a person being personally responsible for their actions? Or do you revel in finding ways to blame the Conservatives for everything?


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Do you realize how idiotic you sound in your last series of posts?

I suppose you would blame Conservatives if some nutcase murders a doctor who performs abortions just because Conservatives have said that abortion is bad, eh?

Do you even believe in a person being personally responsible for their actions? Or do you revel in finding ways to blame the Conservatives for everything?


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do you realize how idiotic the pro-torture crowd sounds when they say it's ok to use water to mock-execute people, and then when people take that lesson to heart in their private lives, suddenly these same people are offended?

publicly endorsing torture is a sickening practice. cons have been doing it for years. the fact that this guy carefully followed the bush plan for enhanced interrogation seems quite obvious. people in the story itself comment on it.

bed.

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lie in it.

EDIT: you have to be kidding me talking about "personal responsibility." cons blame their economic collapse on something that happened in 1977. they let the biggest attack in american history happen on their watch, and they blame it on something that happened three years before.

a con, talking about "personal responsibility." don't make me laugh.
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Waterboarding isn't torture, remember? Nothing wrong here, move along.

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Furthermore, Mr. Nydas, you disappoint me. As a Soldier, you should have been trained to be precise and accurate when reporting information. Tell me, when you are in a combat situation, are you going to employ similar tactics? Are you going to use hyperbole, stretch the truth and imply incorrect correlations when giving reports to your superiors?

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Another casualty in the war on terror. We are creating monsters and bringing them home and setting them lose on their families.
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Good for him. That will teach that little terrorist not to mess with the USA and to recite her ABCs when shes told. Its not torture, so he shouldn't get into trouble. I bet he even got WMD locations out of her.




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So waterboarding the mastermind of 9/11 is the same as waterboarding a 4 year old. Ladies and gentleman, I bring you...the liberal mindset.

This guy will get his in prison. Even criminals have standards and you don't beat kids. How messed up must the mother be for him to get custody.
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do you realize how idiotic the pro-torture crowd sounds when they say it's ok to use water to mock-execute people, and then when people take that lesson to heart in their private lives, suddenly these same people are offended?

publicly endorsing torture is a sickening practice. cons have been doing it for years. the fact that this guy carefully followed the bush plan for enhanced interrogation seems quite obvious. people in the story itself comment on it.

bed.

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lie in it.

EDIT: you have to be kidding me talking about "personal responsibility." cons blame their economic collapse on something that happened in 1977. they let the biggest attack in american history happen on their watch, and they blame it on something that happened three years before.

a con, talking about "personal responsibility." don't make me laugh.
Do you realize how idiotic the anti-torture crowd sounds when they compare waterboarding the mastermind of 9/11 to a 4 year old? Soldiers are forced to train by ducking live fire as bullets shoot over their heads. Using the "logic" of the left it's ok to do this to a 4 year old because others don't define it as torture. At what point did people who make these leaps lose all common sense?
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This guy should be shot. And the judge that handed the little girl to him should be whipped.
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Do you realize how idiotic the anti-torture crowd sounds when they compare waterboarding the mastermind of 9/11 to a 4 year old? Soldiers are forced to train by ducking live fire as bullets shoot over their heads. Using the "logic" of the left it's ok to do this to a 4 year old because others don't define it as torture. At what point did people who make these leaps lose all common sense?
read the thread. i've already been through this, and all you cons are saying the exact same thing. you've been trained well.

i've already responded to this, but you either don't understand what i'm saying or you're deliberately trotting out a straw man.

keep advertising for torture, cons. see how many more guys like this you bring us.
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the parallel to me is clear. cons made exploiting personal idiosyncracies and fears acceptable, as my link demonstrates. this guy is simply carrying on that philosophy. i don't see where my reasoning has gone astray here. why don't you explain to me how if this guy is listening to cons, that he's not just taking your lessons to heart. he's just applying them to someone you would rather your torture techniques not be applied to.

cons are on record saying fake drowning is an acceptable form of interrogation. ditto stress positions/being forced to be smeared in your own waste (do i need to re-post that horrific picture of the guy from abu ghraib covered in feces? that's what happens in stress positions -- you urinate and defecate yourself). ditto finding out what your victim's deepest fears are and exploiting them.

cons are on record saying all these things are ok. so sorry your disciples are applying these lessons to victims you never intended. but hey, no one ever said publicly endorsing torture would be easy, ethically.
So much for your saying you were done with this thread. I have lost any shred of respect I had for you. And for you to attribute this horrible abuse of a child to conservative viewpoints about the interrogation of mass murdering jihadists is beyond sickening. Your incredibly broad brush has been dipped in the seething hatred that consumes you.

Okay hypocrite...answer this question that you refused to before:

Since you think waterboarding is so wrong (even though tens of thousands of US military have undergone waterboarding), are you prepared to sacrifice thousands/millions of American lives in a terroristic attack for YOUR morality?

The and convoluted rationalization will be forthcoming.
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