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Old 02-09-2010, 07:22 AM
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Isn't that interesting?

The Dem-led Senate lost its super majority with the election of Sen. Scott Brown(R) in Mass...and this looks bad for the Dems in the House now.


Without Murtha, Dems now one vote short of passing ObamaCare in House

...With 218 votes needed to pass Reid’s bill, the number of Democrats who voted for the House’s ObamaCare bill last year now stands at … 217.

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Back in November, the House passed its health care bill by a narrow 220 to 215 margin, with 39 Democrats voting against it. Since then, the one Republican who voted for it — Joseph Cao — has indicated that he would not support the bill a second time around given the weaker language on abortion in the Senate version. In addition, Florida Rep. Robert Wexler already retired prematurely. Factor in Murtha’s death today, and Pelosi is down to 217 votes — one short of passage. To pass the bill at some point in the next few months, she’ll need to flip a Democrat who is already on record voting against the bill.

This doesn’t even take into account the pro-life Democrats led by Bart Stupak who are prepared to vote “no.” While there’s been talk that Pelosi had some votes in reserve the first time around, the point is that those members felt they needed to vote against the bill — and the political environment has deteriorated substantially for Democrats since then…
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:24 AM
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How ironic that healthcare reform dies because Murtha dies from healthcare...
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:26 AM
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It's like at the end of ANIMAL HOUSE, when all the pieces come together in one giant heaping bedlam. The clouds have parted, Jesus is smiling and dems are dying like crabs in Madonna's thong.

Rome is burning, but stretch Pelosi is busy with Caligula and a vat of vaseline.

Praise Jesus.
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It's like at the end of ANIMAL HOUSE, when all the pieces come together in one giant heaping bedlam. The clouds have parted, Jesus is smiling and dems are dying like crabs in Madonna's thong.

Rome is burning, but stretch Pelosi is busy with Caligula and a vat of vaseline.

Praise Jesus.
Heh!
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Good! Now maybe they'll be forced to examine actual REFORM to lower costs instead of the crappy insurance mandate that is a gift to the insurance industry.
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Good! Now maybe they'll be forced to examine actual REFORM to lower costs instead of the crappy insurance mandate that is a gift to the insurance industry.
Yep. This is a good article too:

House GOP to Obama: We’ll meet with you about ObamaCare — if you agree to start over

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No more reconciliation, no more backroom deals, no more dictating terms. A clean start to the process, or else they’re “reluctant” to waste their time on his little photo op. That ain’t gonna happen, needless to say: The main reason the Dems are desperate to pass O-Care at this point is simply to get their base to turn out in November, and a bill that’s watered down with real concessions to the GOP simply won’t accomplish that. If anything, it could suppress turnout as the left stays home in disgust at having had to compromise with Rethuglikkkans despite a year with a 60-vote majority.

The GOP doesn’t have any incentive to compromise either, really, since tea partiers will revolt at any bill that expands federal oversight of health care. So all this is about is political posturing and framing the narrative in a way that’ll deliver the most votes in November.
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Does PA not have a mechanism by which they can appoint an interim representative until either a special or general election ?
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If I liked Pelosi at all I would feel sorry for her dumb ass. This is the torment that she deserves. Hell on Earth; with dems in total control of the whole government and she still can’t get socialism passed. Maybe we should lock her up for her own protection.
It reminds me of the islamoits that scream – “Death to American, Allah be willing.” And we won’t die. Allah doesn’t seem to be working for them. We kicked the terrorists out of Afghanistan, Iraq and are blowing them up in Pakistan faster than they are blowing them selves up.
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Does PA not have a mechanism by which they can appoint an interim representative until either a special or general election ?
They will have a special election:

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...Immediately following the news of his death, election analysts rated the race as competitive for the GOP.

While Murtha has held the seat since 1974 with few re-election scares, the Johnstown-area district outside of Pittsburgh has right-leaning roots, and a special election contest will be targeted by House Republicans. With Murtha’s death, Democrats now control the House by a 256-178 margin.

In the 2008 presidential campaign, Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) won the district by a narrow 1,000 vote margin against President Barack Obama. It was the only district in the nation, however, that voted Democratic in the 2004 presidential race that was carried by McCain four years later.

Pennsylvania Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell must set a date for a special election within the next ten days, according to state law. A likely date is May 18, when the state’s primary elections will take place...
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Oh, the irony. Foiled by the death of the "Jackal of the Senate" Ted Killer Kennedy, and now foiled in the House by the death of the Benedict Arnold of the House, Jack "I used to be a Marine" Murtha.

Fate has a sense of humor, it would seem.
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