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Just as Bush the Lame is above Constitutional Law, so the United States of America is above international law and common morality.

You may fire when ready, Mr. Vice-President

This isn't surprising. These prisoners should be dealt with as enemy soldiers (and that is what "enemy combatants" are) and as such their treatment must stay within the confines of the Geneva Convention, or they must be treated as extradited accused criminals, in which case they are protected by the Constitution because they are accused criminals rather than convicted criminals. Torture, moreover, is unpardonable. Of course, we probably don't have long to wait until someone extols torture as a patriotic duty and declares that anyone who opposes it supports Osama bin Laden. We're waiting, barney.

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Why wouldn't they go anyway? Their decision not to go is incomprehensible.

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There. Are ya happy? I'm sticking up for our guys! ? eh? eh? <nudges 12th's shoulder with elbow>

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Because, had they gone they would have been lending weight to a dog and pony show. Without the ability to talk to prisoners, the UN evaluators would be participating in a charade.

Be careful, apotropoxy. Telling the truth borders on treason.

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Ridiculous. If they couldn't satisfy themselves that the prisoners weren't being tortured, they could have said so. Surely, they would be able to see if the prisoners seemed unhealthy, scared, tired, or whatever. They lose credibility by not going at all, IMO.

Now that I look at the allegations, I find it strange that they have changed. The US has been accused of all manner of hideous things. Now they're being accused of force-feeding and prolonged solitary confinement. Maybe they had to come up with a plausible explanation as to why so many of them have gained weight. I would imagine it's quite hard to prove you're being tortured when you are fat and healthy sans injuries and broken bones.

Interviews don't make a lot of difference, IMO. No doubt many of them will say they were tortured. People who want to believe them will and people who don't want to believe it won't.

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Duly noted.

if they aren't allowed to talk with the inmates!

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