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Old 02-28-2006, 10:37 AM
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Another of the cartoons I especially liked was the one showing Jews going on a conveyor belt into a death machine of the holocaust and on the other side of the machine Israeli tanks coming out. It gives you something to think about and argue about.
Like what? It is completely predictable. Nothing clever about it.
I think these Iranian cartoons compare beautifully to the Danish cartoons. Neither are very clever, and both are extremely predictable.

Funny thing is, I'm seeing a lot of posts here denouncing the Iranian cartoons as stupid, pointless, and predictable, but I can't recall many posts denouncing the Danish posts for the same reasons.


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Also I agree whole-heartedly with the comparison of the cartoon making fun of Mohammed and the cartoon denying the holocaust -- there is a double standard, at least as far as Europe is concerned.
Please point out the double standard for me.
I think the double-standard he is trying to point out is that it is not acceptable in Western culture to ridicule Judaism, but it is acceptable to ridicule Islam. Sure, there are no laws preventing individuals from ridiculing Judaism, but doing so will bring about a barrage of criticism and demands of public apology. Ridiculing Islam brings about of support from free-speech advocates who suddenly become quiet when Judaism is involved.
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Funny thing is, I'm seeing a lot of posts here denouncing the Iranian cartoons as stupid, pointless, and predictable, but I can't recall many posts denouncing the Danish posts for the same reasons.
I never saw the Danish cartoons, but if they sucked, I'd say it.
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I don't get it. I don't even get their sarcasm or their point. Looks like they are too stupid to even draw a good cartoon.
And I was beginning to think I was stupid! (Okay, maybe I am ) Most of the cartoons, I have no clue to what they mean...but I guess it is offending someone.

Don't you just love it? People willing to criticize, condescend, and make fun of an entire ethnic group just to make a few bucks of a political cartoon. Call me crazy, but even I don't degrade myself that much (or do I?).

Anyone willing to decipher these cartoons?
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I wouldn't put it that way... in fact, I don't even know where you pulled that from, other than the possibility of it coming from...oh, never mind.
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Many of them don't have to do with the Holocaust in anyway they are winners or such of other things.

Anyhow-
This ones pretty good for a political cartoon. I'd have changed Sharon as the target to Israeli's or Jews. But past that its pretty accurate.

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I actually thought the one with the rabbis becoming tanks is kinda funny. Cause you'd think they're polar opposites...... BUT THEY'RE NOT!!!
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Another of the cartoons I especially liked was the one showing Jews going on a conveyor belt into a death machine of the holocaust and on the other side of the machine Israeli tanks coming out. It gives you something to think about and argue about.
Like what? It is completely predictable. Nothing clever about it.
I think these Iranian cartoons compare beautifully to the Danish cartoons. Neither are very clever, and both are extremely predictable.

Funny thing is, I'm seeing a lot of posts here denouncing the Iranian cartoons as stupid, pointless, and predictable, but I can't recall many posts denouncing the Danish posts for the same reasons.


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Also I agree whole-heartedly with the comparison of the cartoon making fun of Mohammed and the cartoon denying the holocaust -- there is a double standard, at least as far as Europe is concerned.
Please point out the double standard for me.
I think the double-standard he is trying to point out is that it is not acceptable in Western culture to ridicule Judaism, but it is acceptable to ridicule Islam. Sure, there are no laws preventing individuals from ridiculing Judaism, but doing so will bring about a barrage of criticism and demands of public apology. Ridiculing Islam brings about of support from free-speech advocates who suddenly become quiet when Judaism is involved.
You think it is stupid and pointless for the West to ridicule Islam. You also think it is stupid and pointless for Iran to ridicule Judaism. But you must not think it is stupid and pointless to ridicule Christianity because you have done it often. If you do think it is stupid and pointless, then you must consider yourself stupid and pointless. Make up your mind will ya?
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Why is it OK for Mohamed to call Jews decendents of monkeys & pigs (he does .. trust me) and not OK to depict Mohamed as a violent man who has raised a bunch of violent decendents ? Because Islam is the most hypocritical religion on Earth. Do you know that it is OK for a Muslem to lie to a non-Muslem if it's for their betterment. It's completely true. Mohamed did it and if you are Muslem you are allowed to as well. So if someone depicts Mohamed anywhere near a bomb ... which that caravan robber or his decendents would never do, all you have to do as a Muslem is LIE. Lie your head off .. your religion allows it. Depicting Mohamed may be against Islamic law, but it's certainly not against Danish law. So why all the riots? Because the entire world should abide by Muslem wishes. Muslems simply do not respect anything but their right to crap on everybody else. Reality of Islam being a violent religion is not the issue, respecting Islam regardless of the fact that it's a violent religion is the issue. Respect or death. And as for the idiot that thinks that the one cartoon of what Sharon has learned is accurate, he has no idea (or disregards it) of Arab aggression towards Jews in Israel and in Arab lands. Why do you think the Jews of the Arab World fled to Israel .. it was very much for health reasons. The rock that guy is holding while being shot is a freakin rock. Can I throw rocks at you ?! If an Arab threw rocks in a Muslem country you'd probably be calling him "lefty". So these cartoons are crap .. just like Islam and Iran. And af for you Kaka ... Who do you think started and supports Hamas .. Iran has always had issues w/ Israel and always will.
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"Probably most offensive is the cartoon with the urns on the fireplace mantel and the burning of a jew in the fireplace. I don't really see the point of that cartoon. "

I think you kisunderstand. Here is a Jew with the ashes of his decendents above the fireplace and what is he doing ... burning an ARAB. Notice the headdress. Because Israelis are doing to the Palestinians what Hitler did to the Jews. There are concentrationcamps In Israel. There is a systematic anihilation of Arabs in Israel. Once again ... full of crap. Pleanty of Mosques in Israel ... wonder what would happen if I tried to build a synagogue in Suadi Arabia ?!
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Is Islam a violent religion ? Did the haulocaust happen ? You are weighing them evenly. You are going with "the truth is in the middle" routine. Well what if one side tells the truth and the other lies indiscriminently ? It benefits the liar and you aren't willing to call them on it. Israel should lie it's head off and do as it pleases just like Muslem countries. It would benefit Israel. Truth is that most Europeans and americans want to believe bad things about the Jews because history condemns these people for how they have dealt with the Jews in the past. Must feel good to point the finger and say .. look at the Jews now and what they are doing. It borders on idiocy. Islam is a violent religion and so was Mohamed and the Haulocaust did happen and it's not the reason that Israel is a military power .. Arab aggression is !!! This isn't about free speach, it's about false journalism.
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