"can't accept that those cartoons of Mohammed had one purpose only -- to inflame the racism against muslims. "

Europe is being overran by Islam but depicting Mohamed as a violent man and insinuating that he has raised a violent flock is wrong ?!? It's on-the- nose accurate. Just look at what happened. Europeans wheren't the only ones smoking .. their cars and building where too. Just because you know that it might offend someone, doesn't mean it's not true and should not be depicted as such. I know plenty of Europeans that are tired of cow towing to Muslems. Good for them !!!

"Acceptable in Western culture to ridicule Judaism, but it is acceptable to ridicule Islam"

I disagree. It's actually just the opposite. France has a long tradition of ridiculing Jews and the continent in general (with a few exceptions) is anti-Jewish (Arabs are Semites as well). Islam, which is a scurge on Europe, has a lot to answer for that nobody wants to touch upon. These cartoons are more attacks on Israel than on Judaism. I will say one thing on this point ... "Palestinians" wheren't "Palestinians" during the Ottoman empire .. only recently. They are Muslem Arabs (for the most part). Now look at a map of the region and tell me who the aggressor is. Arab/Muslem lands or the New Jersey sized spec called Israel. See the forrest not the trees guys.
Are Europeans wearig yarmulkas to show solidarity with israel or Jews .. NO, but are they wearing kafias left & right ? YES. So you tell me ...

That would be me most likely.
Arab aggression towards Israel has squat diddly do da day crap to do with what Sharon, Jews, and Israelis in general learned and apply that can be derived as being learned from their experiences during the Holocaust.


When you are willing to accept the same treatment to your peoples as your peoples apply to the Palestinains then ok..until then though we've all heard this tune before ..65 years ago it caused another nation to (*)(*)(*)(*) near exterminate every Jew in Europe.

Don't even for a minute act like you would accept Jews being treated like Jews today treat Palestinains...,,and don't even try to deny that you would support Jews waging the same uprising as the Intifada. Jewish history is full of glorification of such resistance so don't even attempt it.

Don't even for a minute act like you would accept Jews being treated like Jews today treat Palestinains...,,and don't even try to deny that you would support Jews waging the same uprising as the Intifada. Jewish history is full of glorification of such resistance so don't even attempt it.

Have any ideas what Jews where treated like under Muslem rule ?! Any idea what a Dimhi is. Look it up because unless you are Muslem, you are one just like myself. You will never change my mind about Islam being a ridiculous disgusting religion .. not all Muslems .. but certainly Islam. What do you think would happen if a Jew threw stones at authorities in a Muslem country ?! The filth and degradation in which the "Palestinians" (they are just Arab Muslems like all the rest in the region .. if they want their freedom so (*)(*)(*)(*) much they would have revolted against Ottoman rule ... but they didn't and they didn't call themselves "Palestinians") live is actually your fault. If you would blame the Arab countries for not integrating their brothers (like Jews integrate their refugees from Arab nations) then they wouldn't use these poor souls as pawns. If you didn't buy their bull then maybe their authority wouldn't have such an easy time skimming millions while pointing at Israel as the problem. So it is you ... the fool ... that is in fact the cause of these people's suffering. You who buy into the great Muslem lie. The fact is that it's a slum because the Arabs don't help each other out on national levels. It is not Israels responsibility to do so.

As for Jews waging the same war as the intifada ... if Muslem arabs ran this land and the Jews revolted then the Arabs would massacre 10,000 men in a square rape the women butcher some children and do it again until it stopped. If you don't believe me look at the Sudan .. Muslem genocide pure n simple. So don't be an idiot and compare Jews and Arabs. If Jews dropped their guns every last one would be killed. If every "palestinian" dropped his weapon they might actually have peace. I sincerely hope that nobody else here believes your drivle.
When you know what you are talking about come back .. Till then, good day. i live in Jerusalem .. I live this every day and I don't buy a bit of it.

IOW if it was Jews blowing themselves up you'd applaud and decry the treatment of Jews by Palestinians if they acted in the same exact manner Israelis act today.

Blood&Soil--Rhetoric you hear form many Israelis today..where did that come from?..Its was engraved on the Daggers worn by the SS. A very minor exmple of things Israel states that can be associated with the Holocaust.


I urge anyone to read all of what he said...now try to tell me there is no similairites between his words and those of a Nazi... Theres alot isn't there.

Which is why the cartoon saying what Sharon learned form the holocaust is rather accurate.

Blood!
Race!
Soil!
Land!

We are the chosen ones!

Arabs are thieves!

Arabs are not like us!

Arabs and their filthy religion is despicable!

They will either accept our superiority or be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed!

One People..One State..One Leader!

Sieg Heil!
Sieg Heil!
Sieg Heil!

If the filthy Jew would just learn his place..<--you would never accept that ever. So save it.

bull(*)(*)(*)(*), everyone would decry them for doing so.
There's always crazy radical right wingers in every group. The majority of Israelis want peace with palestine and are for removal from the West Bank and for a palestinian state.

Israel was founded by secularists, and is still a laregely secularist country.

Thats a croc, aside from a few crazy radical right wingers, nobody believes that.

His place is whupping terrorist butt.

[quote]everyone would decry them for doing so.[quote]

Please..when 2 of Israels future Prime Ministers where terrorist and responsible for the deaths of who knows how many innocents including those they murdered by bombing the King David hotel in 1946..your comment fall flat.

How many Israelis are iving in houses where the Palestinain residents where forced out or murdered?..more then a few thats for sure.
Whats their reply? well its our land cuz God said so and after all they where only Palestinians..Germans said the same thing with little variation.


IOW
His place is not nor will you ever accept it being in the same position as a Palestinian.
You would never accept Jews being put in the posiiton Jews put Palestininans in today. No way.


If the roles where reversed I have no doubt whatsoever that those who vocally support Israels policies in terms of the Palestinains would support the same actions the Palestinians have done. No question of that at all.


Hamas should never have taken power and probably never would have. Had the situation not been allowed to get to this point..in 1950 at the latest the UN should have forcefully enforced the mandate creating two states. Not allowing one to use religious nonsense and wars with its neigbors as an excuse to sit upon the other for all these decades.

None the less, the govt of Israel's official religion is judaism and it's that govt's task to ensure that Israel be forever jewish.

Several years ago Israel could have partly solved the palestinian problem by giving israeli citizenship to pals living in the occupied territories. It would have given those people a stake in building israel by giving the pals the same rights as all the other jewish citizens.. but that idea was rejected because it would have created a sizeable muslim minority in the country.

I understand why the Israelis are doing what they are, I just don't agree with it. I've never been a big fan of state sanctioned religions... be it the jesusfreak or raghead or christkiller variety.

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When did judiasm ridicule Christianity? why are you trying to make Christianity appear as the real victims?

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