http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188190,00.html

Hey sorry I know there is probably a thread on this "Swarmer" operation -- but how much of this BS does the American Public have to endure?? How many millions of dollars are they spending on this "Operation Swarmer" so they can report back to us that they have CAPTURED 40??? We are talking about 40 punk kids. Albeit 40 PESKY punk kids. The pizzer is-----------340 more PESKY punk kids are being trained to take their place. Then when we either blow their heads off or "capture" them in some headline-grabbing propoganda bullsheet, they'll be about 1500 trained and ready to take THEIR place. I know there are over a billion muslims in the world. How long will it take us to kill one billion muslims anyway? Does anyone have a prospect on that?

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It has never been anyone's designation to kill all the Muslims in the world (no one credible anyway). For every Muslim that joins with the terrorists, many more do not. A large number do sympathize with the cause of the terrorists. But I sympathize with the general cause of Bush. You don't see me conceding that the military is the best way to do it, do you? In the same manner, most Muslims would prefer not to be terrorists to support the cause of Islamic nationalism and striking out against the West- though some may act as cheerleaders when terrorists strike a blow that they see as "progress".
The cause of Muslims defecting toward terrorism is more the lack of viable alternatives that match their anti-Western stance without violence, then a love for terrorism. And those who defect toward terrorism are in the minority. The strongest weapon that can be used against terrorism is gaining support amongst the Muslim masses. It's not difficult since most will prefer the option that brings peace.

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I don't really see how gaining support among the Muslim masses will solve the problem, if those masses still feel more afraid of their terrorist brethren than of us.

The high voter turnout in their recent elections should make it clear that they are not quite that scared of the terrorists.

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You've got two types of Muslims ---------- the insurgents and terrorists (which are two TOTALLY different entities) and their supporters. Muslims who would never take up a gun support those who would. This is the majority. The insurgents are a different breed than terrorists though. These are mainly peasant people who are HUNGRY. Most of them QUIT as soon as they get their first paycheck. They believe in the cause but they've never had a real paycheck and can't wait to go have 'emselves some fun. Besides they know their 2nd and third cousins are just about done with their training period and will take their place. Probably as soon as they finished spending their $300 paycheck (probably take 'em a year) they will reenlist.

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Sadistic, I think that it's one thing to vote, another to step up as a single person and say "Islamism is wrong." And that's not to take anything away from all of those brave people with purple fingers...

How do you know that? Where are you getting these facts from? How did you detemine that hunger is their motivation for attacking us?

How do you know it isnt religion? Or ego?

Prove it. Prove that the majority of the Iraqi military quit after receiving their first paycheck.

Sounds like you are describing a sustainable military to me. However you havnt proven that a majority of the entire Iraqi military quit.

"Islam" told them not to vote, and 70% did anyway. If they were afraid of them, they would not have done that. You are implying that they have been intimidated into submission by the terrorists. The empirical evidence does not support that conclusion.

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I want to make a correction to my last post. I said "they believe in the cause" which I have reconsidered. Most of them have absolutely no idea what the cause is. They are peasants living is squalor, living in totally remote villages, and the only thing they have to go by is the propoganda they are fed. They probably don't even know who they are really fighting, they just see a chance to make some money. And don't forget, they've probably just had their very first Hershey bar. When they get out of traning, and realize they are fighting their fellow muslims, many of them rethink their position. The ones that stay never had a paycheck in their life and they think they can get used to that idea. But the majority, whether they stay or leave, probably have no earthly idea what the heck is even going on. Someone yells "fire" and they obey.

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Again...what makes you assume that? I have never seen any interviews indicating hunger or poverty as a motivation for joining or supporting the insurgency. I have seen no statements released by extremists to that effect.

So where are you getting this information from?

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