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Old 03-17-2006, 05:19 PM
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Default United Arab Emirates, Iran, and missiles.

And these are the people we want to run our ports? People who are doing money laundering for the Iranians so Iran can acquire parts for their Chinese cruise missiles form Germany and Switzerland!

"The German news agency DDP reports that Iran has conducted four missile tests since the beginning of 2006. Citing employees of Western security services, the report claims that Iran tested a modified intermediate-range ballistic missile, an air defense missile, a cruise missile, and an anti-tank missile. The modified intermediate-range missile is believed to have been a Shahab-3 with a range of 900 km. The report adds that Iran recently transferred several Shahab-3 missiles to neighborhoods surrounding the cities of Kermanshah and Hamad on its western border, from which it could reach targets in Israel (the distance from Kermanshah to Tel Aviv is 850 km). The air defense missile that was tested was an Iranian version of an as-of-yet unidentified Russian SAM, most likely the S-300, while the cruise missile was an Iranian version of the Chinese HY-2 Silkworm missile. The Silkworm apparently flew 150 km during the test, which would make it capable of reaching targets in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. The report adds that Iran is attempting to acquire new engine components for these cruise missiles from Germany and Switzerland, which are then smuggled through Iranian cover firms registered in Dubai’s free trade zone in the United Arab Emirates."
http://www.missilethreat.com/news/200602.html
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I'll bet you were really upset when the Clinton Administration gave special treatment to Loral Space and Communications in its sensitive dealings with China's space agency.

Especially since Loral's chief executive officer, Bernard Schwartz, was a major Democratic donor.

After all, President Clinton signed a waiver allowing Schwartz's company to sell missile technology to China over the objection of the Pentagon.

That must have really p'ssd you off, eh? Wonder if that's some of the same missiles that Clinton gave his special donor friend permission to sell?
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The UAE isn't doing money laundering fo Iran... Iran is using front companies in the UAE..get the difference?

I also notice how your not calling for us to stop dealing with the Germans and Swiss?..you know the countries SELLING the engines.


The entire terminal yahoo routine is stupid enough as it is don't compund it.
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I'll bet you were really upset when the Clinton Administration gave special treatment to Loral Space and Communications in its sensitive dealings with China's space agency.

Especially since Loral's chief executive officer, Bernard Schwartz, was a major Democratic donor.

After all, President Clinton signed a waiver allowing Schwartz's company to sell missile technology to China over the objection of the Pentagon.

That must have really p'ssd you off, eh? Wonder if that's some of the same missiles that Clinton gave his special donor friend permission to sell?
I believe that we did not sell missile technology to China. We let them launch our satellites. Quite a difference there. Then Loral scientists gave them info. for free on how to keep their rockets from blowing up.

"U.S. intelligence discovered in 1993 that China had sold missile technology to Pakistan. Because of bipartisan Congressional demands, Clinton barred the U.S. space industry from using Chinese rockets to launch their satellites. U.S. satellites were put on the "munitions" list, the list of our most sensitive military and intelligence-gathering technology. The reason these commercial satellites are important is because they carry technological secrets essential to "significant military and intelligence interests."

In June 1994, the CEO of Loral Space and Communications, Bernard Schwartz, made a $100,000 contribution to the Democratic National Committee. He then joined a Ron Brown trip to China that led to a $250 million telecommunications deal for Loral's satellites to be launched by Chinese rockets.

In October 1994, Clinton lifted the sanctions he had imposed on China for selling missile technology to Pakistan. In early 1995, Schwartz sent a letter to Clinton urging that responsibility for satellite-export licenses be shifted from the State Department to the Commerce Department. Meanwhile, both Schwartz and Johnny Chung made more huge donations, in excess of $100,000, to the Democratic Party.

On February 6, 1996, despite reports that China continued to export nuclear technology to Pakistan and missiles to Iran, and over the objections of our State and Defense Departments, Clinton signed waivers for four U.S. satellites to be launched by Chinese rockets. On the very same day, Wang Jun (a "Chinese arms dealer") attended one of Clinton's now-famous campaign coffees in the White House and spent some time in Ron Brown's Commerce Department office. Wang Jun owns a huge stake in a Chinese enterprise that benefited from Clinton's waivers, China International Trade and Investment Corporation.

On Feb. 15, 1996, the Chinese rocket launching a $200-million Loral satellite blew up. Without telling the U.S. Government, Loral scientists prepared a 200-page report advising China how to improve the guidance of its missiles and forwarded this helpful advice to China without Pentagon approval."
http://nashville.craigslist.org/pol/133762503.html

In any case we are taking about Bush not Clinton and we are talking about Iran who does not as yet have a nuclear tipped ICBM as opposed to China which did at the time.
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The UAE isn't doing money laundering fo Iran... Iran is using front companies in the UAE..get the difference?

I also notice how your not calling for us to stop dealing with the Germans and Swiss?..you know the countries SELLING the engines.


The entire terminal yahoo routine is stupid enough as it is don't compund it.
Not really.

As far as countries in the EU selling weapons to countries in the middle east, no I am not thrilled about it. You want to go to war with them? Let's try a trade embargo with Germany. Ha Ha Ha!
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And none of it actually has anything to do with DP World.
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And none of it actually has anything to do with DP World.
Oh I did not know that. So you are saying that DP World is not an United Arab Emirates corporation?


"Dubai Ports World (or DP World for short) is a company owned by the government of Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
In 2006, it agreed to purchase the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company (P&O) of the United Kingdom, which was then the fourth largest ports operator in the world, for £3.9 billion ($7 billion), beating a bid from Singapore's PSA International of £3.5 billion. P&O is one of the most famous names in British business, having been the largest shipping operator in the world at one time. DP World has promised to keep P&O's headquarters in London.
DP Terminals was founded in 1999 and DP World was created by a merger between the Dubai Ports Authority (DPA) and an international business, DPI Terminals."
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You should be all for that..but apparently selling the actual engines to the missile to a front company for Iran in the UAE is grounds enough for you to (*)(*)(*)(*) the UAE. Not Iran or Germany...nope its the UAE.

..and its TERMINALS not PORTS.
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You should be all for that..but apparently selling the actual engines to the missile to a front company for Iran in the UAE is grounds enough for you to (*)(*)(*)(*) the UAE. Not Iran or Germany...nope its the UAE.

..and its TERMINALS not PORTS.
Then why do they call it Portgate?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/arc..._02/008272.php

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Becasue sine watergate everythign has had "gate" stuck to the end its stupid but y'know...

..also becasue after lying to everyone the media has a hard time being honest afterward.
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