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When Democrats do it, they call it "Donation swapping." When Republicans do it....like Tom Delay's TRMPAC, those same Democrats call it "Money Laundering" and find a partisan Democrat D.A. to indict. Hey....that's fair, isn't it?




Candidate Accused of 'Donation Swapping' By M.L. JOHNSON,

Associated Press Writer
Fri Mar 24, 3:18 PM ET


PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Why would Democrats in Hawaii give money to a U.S. Senate candidate in Rhode Island?

That question is creating a furor around Rhode Island Secretary of State Matt Brown, who is running for the Senate. At issue is whether his campaign engaged in "donation swapping," a practice experts say is a common and legally dubious means of skirting the federal limits on political contributions.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060324/...ation_swapping
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When Democrats do it, they call it "Donation swapping." When Republicans do it....like Tom Delay's TRMPAC, those same Democrats call it "Money Laundering" and find a partisan Democrat D.A. to indict. Hey....that's fair, isn't it?
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Yes!! The whole Tom Delay case should be dropped. It's a total miscarriage of justice. D.A. Ronnie Earle is doing the same thing he did to Kaye Bailey Hutchinson.....hoping this time he can keep this guy, Tom Delay, from getting back in as leader or maybe cause him to lose the election. That's Earle's ONLY goal here....as the puppet of Democrats that he is. They can't do it at the polls; so they seek to do it with a prosecutor who is willing to abuse his power.
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The whole case is a cration of Earles meant soley to cause poltical damage to DeLay.
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Yes!! The whole Tom Delay case should be dropped.
Actually, the Tom Delay case should be continued and anyone else who "donation swaps" should likewise find themselves in Court.

I think prosecutors should keep arresting these people until the rampant corruption is stopped (or until we run out of eligible citizens).
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This is my idea. If it makes me a "commie", so be it. Require all federal elected officials and candidates for federal office to turn over all of their property to the U.S. Treasury, with the process overseen by an independent board, a board that would have to approve every transaction made by such officials and candidates. Ban all contributions to such candidates and elected officials, monetary and non-monetary, soft or hard. On the subject of ending corruption, moreover, I support banning all corporate tax breaks and no-bid government contracts.
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Yes!! The whole Tom Delay case should be dropped.
Actually, the Tom Delay case should be continued and anyone else who "donation swaps" should likewise find themselves in Court.

I think prosecutors should keep arresting these people until the rampant corruption is stopped (or until we run out of eligible citizens).
Good ol' PJ. Glad you finally saw fit to grace us with your presence.

Travis County is the "Berkeley" of Texas. Earle is a screeching loon. Let's just wait and see, huh? I'm sure it'll be fun.
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Good ol' PJ. Glad you finally saw fit to grace us with your presence.
I do read posts now and again. But since changing jobs, I am working twice the hours and after working and sleeping, I have little time to do anything else.

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Whether or not Earle is a loon is irrelevant to the reality of the legal bribery that masquerades as political contributions. Political candidates are able to amass huge amounts of money within the structure of the law. IF Delay, or any other candidate/incumbent, attempts or successfully subverts the law, they should be held accountable.

If JP5 is correct and Democrats subvert the law in the same way, the answer is not to support the dismissal of Delay's case, but to institute more cases until the rampant corruption is brought under control.
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Whether or not Earle is a loon is irrelevant to the reality of the legal bribery that masquerades as political contributions. Political candidates are able to amass huge amounts of money within the structure of the law. IF Delay, or any other candidate/incumbent, attempts or successfully subverts the law, they should be held accountable.

If JP5 is correct and Democrats subvert the law in the same way, the answer is not to support the dismissal of Delay's case, but to institute more cases until the rampant corruption is brought under control.
I don't believe JP5's point is that the Dems broke the law too. I believe the point is that IF it is against the law, why haven't the Dems been indicted too? However, IIRC, Delay's defense in the case is that at the time of the alleged offense, it was legal. I don't have the understanding of the case that JP5 does, but it seems to me that if you have hundreds of sources of money go into the same account, you would have a hard time saying where any specific dollar came from. The way things stand now with campaign finance, can anybody understand it? My concern might be more of an ethics question rather than legality - that donations be used by the organization intended by the donor.
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Yes!! The whole Tom Delay case should be dropped.
Actually, the Tom Delay case should be continued and anyone else who "donation swaps" should likewise find themselves in Court.

I think prosecutors should keep arresting these people until the rampant corruption is stopped (or until we run out of eligible citizens).
It's downright amazing to me how many Democrats end up being against freedoms and the "voice" of the people. If these are LEGAL donations going into the DNC or RNC and LEGAL donations coming out and going to the various states.....what the hell difference does it make??? The only group you are truly hampering is the regular every-day Joe. Thanks to Democrats.....led by John McCain on CFR.....the only people truly FREE to put their money where their mouth is politically-speaking is people like George Soros with his 527c's. And they have far less accountability and openness requirements than the political parties do.

CFR is a perfect example of how it is when Congress or the Senate tries to fix something. Sarbanes-Oxley is another one. They ONLY make it WORSE. FAR WORSE. And the regular citizen is the one getting screwed and tatooed.
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