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There were 3 teams of experts, stekim. 2 of them said the trailers were biological weapons labs.
wasn't everything in those labs covered with dust as if they were closed up for years.
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Yes I do. There was credible doubt. That's a fact. We have the report. Bush NEVER claimed there was credible doubt. We also know that.
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:01 AM
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Okay. Apot's article has a date of "May 27th, 2003" that this so-called determination was made. Right???? Well, lookie here: On June 8th, 2003, the CIA mentions these reports and says it STILL stands behind their previous position on the mobile labs.

Official: CIA holds position on Iraqi mobile labs
Reports have questioned bioweapons allegations

Sunday, June 8, 2003 Posted: 6:37 AM EDT (1037 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CIA stands by its assessment that complex mobile laboratories discovered in Iraq were designed and built to produce biological weapons, a senior CIA official told CNN on Saturday.

Critics of the U.S. intelligence assessment "don't have the benefit of all of the intelligence" that has been collected on the trucks, the official said.

"It is what we think it is, to the best of our knowledge," said the official, who spoke on the condition that he not be identified by name.

The New York Times reported Saturday that some bioweapons experts and analysts are not convinced that the labs were designed to make biological weapons and, the article suggested, that the U.S. "evaluation process had been damaged by a rush to judgment."

Disarming the Iraqi regime of alleged weapons of mass destruction was one of the main goals of the United States and its allies before the war. Since President Bush declared the war over, no such weapons have been found.

Former U.N. weapons inspector David Kay told CNN on Saturday that though there was a "lack of strong evidence" that the vehicles had been used to produce deadly biological agents, "the most likely use" and "the most probable use" was to create biological weapons. He said suggestions that the mobile labs had some more benign application, such as producing agricultural chemicals, were unlikely."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/07/cia.mobile.labs/

We told you Apot: your "news" is OLD. AND it's incorrect.

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can't give you an exact date but good old Condi Rice was still mentioning those aluminum tubes long after experts had concluded they were not for enriching uranium. This administration has no credibility anywhere except for you guys and dolls.
You mean the "experts" YOU choose to believe. Bottom line....on most of the intelligence there WAS DIFFERING OPINIONS AMONG THE EXPERTS. Colin Powell also said about the grade of those aluminum tubes that they were of the highest military grade; not used for ordinary industrial uses.

I'll bet you are someone who would have walked by Timonthy McVeigh when he was loading up the Ryder truck with fertilizer, and asked, "Hey, what you going to do with all that fertilizer?" McVeigh woud have said, "Oh a friend of mine is going to use it at his farm." And YOU would have believed him and let it drop.

It's called being naive. It's called being willing to believe the "best" of some really bad people.
when you pass someone loading fertilizer on a truck you assume they are making a bomb?
If I see someone loading a Ryder truck with fertilizer, I would call the FBI and let THEM figure it out.

What would you do?
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:17 AM
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wasn't everything in those labs covered with dust as if they were closed up for years.
Yeah Sputterman. They were dusty as hell considering they were FOUND BURIED!!!!! And they were clearly marked so that they could be recovered later. In other words.....to paint you a picture: SADDAM WAS HIDING THEM!!

Hey....you HIDE all your LEGITIMATE USE THINGS, don't you???

U.S.: Mobile labs found in Iraq
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 Posted: 4:19 AM EDT (0819 GMT)

KARBALA, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. troops have found 11 mobile laboratories buried south of Baghdad that are capable of biological and chemical uses, a U.S. general said Monday.

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Since they ended up not being for bio warfare. The US government concluded that Saddam had destroyed his WMD program somewhere in the mid to late nineties.
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Its true its to late to undo the distortions the administration made. But they are in the process of again vastly distorting a WMD threat in Iran. Hopefully this time the American public will see through the distortions of the administration. But they may not....
You mean like this?
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/200...=home&SEC=news
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Oh, but 12thMan......they don't care bout no stinking Jews! Isn't that about the gist of it?

That's what this entire Iraq, Iran, 9/11 thing comes down to: a bitter hate for a whole population of people called "the Jews." Goes back a long, long time.
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Since they ended up not being for bio warfare. The US government concluded that Saddam had destroyed his WMD program somewhere in the mid to late nineties.
Which means what, you ask? It means he was HIDING THEM. They were marked so they could locate them later.

My God: how naive are you? Do you need a huge BOOM outside your door before you BELIEVE something?
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I wouldn't bother JP5..this "issue" was manufactured form the start and now is for all intents dead.

Its Rumsfeld must resign because we want to lose now.
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it means exactly what I said. He destroyed the WMD. The trailers which were hidden were not for WMD. That was the point of the original article and its something the president, if not die hard supporters of the war now acknowledges. They were not used or intended for WMD purposes.
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