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Old 05-24-2004, 08:06 AM
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Default A wedding video tape means nothing

it could have occured hours, or even days before the bombing.

Let me ask you lefties a question, how many weddings take place at 3 a.m.?
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Was just thinkin the same......
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Hans,

You never been to a part that goes on after midnight?
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You never been to a part that goes on after midnight?
But how many wedding parties have only men with lots of weapons and illegal passports?
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There is also a severe discrepancy in info as the military say there was no evidence of a wedding (but are now saying there were syringes!!!) and the journos say there was (mixed in with what appear to be US bomb bits).
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have weddings too. The U.S. might not have gotten their invitations and didn't know that the wedding was taking place that day.

I wonder who will get the movie rights.

"My big fat Al~Q wedding"
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have weddings too. The U.S. might not have gotten their invitations and didn't know that the wedding was taking place that day.

I wonder who will get the movie rights.

"My big fat Al~Q wedding"
because no women or children were found.
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Hans,

You never been to a part that goes on after midnight?
But how many wedding parties have only men with lots of weapons and illegal passports?
Hans,

Why are you quoting the miloitary info as fact when there is some question to its validaty?

IIRC the passports were not illegal and just how did they know they were all men, even the milotary has admitted to some women being killed also.

The miltary claim that there was no evidence of a wedding, NO instruments, NO leftover food, etc. APTN says there WAS pieces of musical instruments littered around and there WAS pots and pans lying around.
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have weddings too. The U.S. might not have gotten their invitations and didn't know that the wedding was taking place that day.

I wonder who will get the movie rights.

"My big fat Al~Q wedding"
because no women or children were found.
Or just too lazy to find the 'facts'

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Kimmitt has denied finding evidence that any children died in the raid although a "handful of women" perhaps four to six were "caught up in the engagement."


"They may have died from some of the fire that came from the aircraft," he told reporters Friday.
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By ANTHONY DEUTSCH
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military said Saturday it has found "no evidence of a wedding" at the site of an airstrike last week near the Syrian border, and said evidence so far suggested the target was a desert base for foreign terrorists sneaking into Iraq.

Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, coalition deputy chief of staff for operations, showed slides of military binoculars, guns and battery packs that could be used to trigger roadside bombs found by U.S. troops at the site.

He said "terrorist manuals," telephone numbers for Afghanistan and foreign passports, including one Sudanese, were also recovered there.

Survivors of the attack in Mogr el-Deeb, a desert village inhabited by members of the Bou Fahad clan, said they had just finished a wedding celebration when bombs fell before dawn Wednesday. More than 40 people were killed, including women and children.

Associated Press Television News footage taken at the site Thursday showed broken musical instruments, pieces of bloodied women's hair and the bodies of children. Kimmitt said no musical instruments were found, however.

Many of the bodies were taken about 250 miles to the east to Ramadi, the base of the clan and the capital of Anbar province which includes Mogr el-Deeb. According to Lt. Col. Ziyad al-Jbouri, the deputy police chief there, between 42 and 45 people died, including 15 children and 10 women. A local hospital doctor put the death toll at 45.

During a briefing for reporters, Kimmitt said the military was investigating the raid and had reached no final conclusions. However, he displayed pictures of some of the items found at the site.

He said suspicious materials included about 300 sets of bedding, 100 sets of prepackaged clothing as well as a "medical treatment room." He said the clothing could have been for infiltrators seeking to disguise themselves as Iraqis.

He said white powder also was found that could have been cocaine. The border area is a popular route for smugglers.

"None of the bodies had identification of any kind on them, no ID cards, no wallets, no pictures," Kimmitt said. "They had watches, and that was about the only way you could identify one person from another."

He said the absence of identification, as well as the remoteness of the area, suggested "that this was a high-risk meeting of high-level, anti-coalition forces."

The military's finding contrasts sharply with statements by survivors as well as local officials in Ramadi. On Thursday, a well-known wedding singer, Hussein al-Ali, was buried in Baghdad, and his family said he was killed in the airstrike.

Bou Fahad clansmen, who raise livestock, denied the presence of foreign fighters in their group. Members of the clan said the attack began a few hours after the wedding festivities had broken up for the night.

Kimmitt said farm vehicles were found, but that they showed no signs of being used for ranching. Nor, he added, was there evidence of any wedding celebration.

"There was no evidence of a wedding: no decorations, no musical instruments found, no large quantities of food or leftover servings one would expect from a wedding celebration," he said. "No gifts. The men were almost all of military age."

"There may have been some kind of celebration," Kimmitt said. "Bad people have celebrations, too. Bad people have parties, too, and it may have been what was seen as some kind of celebration ... may have been just a meeting in the middle of the desert by some people conducting criminal or terrorist activities."

Members of the clan said, however, that the Americans did not question them after the attack and that when some of the survivors tried to approach U.S. ground troops, they were fired on.
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