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Old 06-26-2006, 03:11 PM
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How ironic is it that people who go by "pro-choice" are against people choosing a bumper sticker?
People need to think before speaking. Especially if they're considered to be on my side of the spectrum. When are we liberals finally going to laugh off the pro-censorship leftists?
Its a specialty plate sponsered by the government. No pro-choice plates are allowed. That would be activist conservative judges at their usual, ignoring the laws and imposing their personal beliefs on other people.
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Who cares? Do plates form your position? Here in the Bible belt I see more Jeebus stickers than W sees words he can't pronounce. But I'm still not Christian.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:46 PM
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Who cares? Do plates form your position? Here in the Bible belt I see more Jeebus stickers than W sees words he can't pronounce. But I'm still not Christian.
Except a license plate is specially issued by the government. Quiller would be flipping out if they only had a pro choice plate in California.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:57 AM
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Yes, it's issued by the government, but you get to pick the plate you want. They don't make anyone buy a Choose Life plate. Nor is Choose Life a religious message. So I just can't get all worked up over it. And if a pro life person objects to a pro choice plate it just shows how little free speech means to some people.
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Yes, it's issued by the government, but you get to pick the plate you want. They don't make anyone buy a Choose Life plate. Nor is Choose Life a religious message. So I just can't get all worked up over it. And if a pro life person objects to a pro choice plate it just shows how little free speech means to some people.
I think the issue is one of fairness. The government, by allowing a Choose Life plate but not allowing a Choose Choice plate, could be seen as taking a position in favor of Choose Life, or against Choose Choice.

If the issue is a free speech one, then why would the opposition plate not be allowed?

I don't have a huge problem either way, I would just like to know the reasoning behind allowing one and not allowing the other.
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Old 06-27-2006, 06:53 AM
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I agree with that. I think the way it works here is that groups petition the state for a plate. So if the pro life folks did that and pro choice folks never did, we would have only one plate. But it's totally different if only one side were allowed to have the plate.
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Why is the government involved in issuing political message plates at all?
It guess it would be perfectly fine if you could have any non-profane message you want( quiller could get his "Choose Torture" plate), but to pick and choose smacks of inappropriate.
Whats next, "Vote Democrat" on the plates, with no chance of getting vote republican. Slippery slope IMHO.
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These plates usually cost more and the state shares the extra profits with the other entity. The state is not spending taxpayer money, it's adding revenues. I was told that in order to justify a new plate, a study is done to determine potential sales. I'm pretty sure that if there was enough interest in "choose choice" plates, the state would offer them. IOW, it's about money, not ideology. You will note that the large universities are often on plates, not the little ones. But, the state is not supporting one over the other.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:36 AM
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These plates usually cost more and the state shares the extra profits with the other entity. The state is not spending taxpayer money, it's adding revenues. I was told that in order to justify a new plate, a study is done to determine potential sales. I'm pretty sure that if there was enough interest in "choose choice" plates, the state would offer them. IOW, it's about money, not ideology. You will note that the large universities are often on plates, not the little ones. But, the state is not supporting one over the other.
I suppose I believe you and it seems legit. But part of me believes this isn't what pro-life candidates are saying on the campaign trail in those States. I'll bet its a lot more political than you are admitting to. But I defer to your argument as legit.
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Old 06-27-2006, 06:06 PM
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The problem is that the state legislature refused to let there to be pro choice plates. Obviously, the Republican state legislature don't believe the bill of rights applies to their constituents.
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