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Trust funds pay taxes. Just FYI. I should know, I'm the trustee of one.
There are many type trust funds. Just saying you manage one means very little. A trust fund in the right hands can avoid taxes if you know what you are doing.
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I would LOVE a "to catch a politician" show!
Heh -- Remember when the media put Tom Delay under the microscope and got on his case about not disclosing travel expenses paid by lobbyists? Suddenly all the rats in congress started submitting expense summaries for fear of being the next one caught.
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There are many type trust funds. Just saying you manage one means very little. A trust fund in the right hands can avoid taxes if you know what you are doing.
Care to provide an example? Because I would love to do so. You can avoid certain taxes on transfers and estates, but that's about it.
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I'd love to see some media attention pointed at the waste that goes on in some of these programs. Instead of "to catch a predator" why can't we see "to catch a politician"?? Most people don't have the time and resources to look into these things, the media does.

In the meantime, we can continue to waste money on hopeless commisions for tax and social security reform, while passing "important" legislation such as the elimination of the estate tax. I'd love to see how many senators are in the "small minority of Americans" helped by this.
With the media the way it is, you can't expect them to responsibly point out these flaws. They will sensationalize some things and gloss over others, often ignoring finer details. It will resemble the media being partisan, but will actually be primarily a function of trying to fit such things into five minute segments.
Do you honestly believe they'd get a variety of people from different angles to argue their side on the issue? That's why public broadcasting doesn't resemble the norm. There is only a tiny market for such non-ADD friendly programming.
People are more entertained by pundits who give catchy-sounding one-sided attacks, not by comprehensive debates complete with the other side.

Face it. Before we can fix the media, the government, or the private sector, the public needs work. Until then we can expect same-old same-old.
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There are many type trust funds. Just saying you manage one means very little. A trust fund in the right hands can avoid taxes if you know what you are doing.
Care to provide an example? Because I would love to do so. You can avoid certain taxes on transfers and estates, but that's about it.
I believe their is a loophole that would let you put the money into municiple bonds signed to the trustee. You don't get great returns but they are tax free on the way in and the way out. BTW you might want to talk to a money manager if you haven't allready. (not that I don't think my own advice is divinely inspired)
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That's not a loophole! Anyone can invest in municipal bonds. It's not a secret. And I don't need to talk to a money manager. That's my area.
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Thats capitalism.
No that's organized crime
Whats the difference.
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