Religious war? - Page 2

JP5 · #11 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Matticus77";p=&quot

Here's a few terrorist acts that were not religious:

Timothy Mcveigh
Columbine
Waco Texas
Lee Harvey Oswald
The murder of Yitzhak Rabin
The attacks on a school in Belsan Russia
Poison gas on a Japanese subway

There are more that I can find but that's a start. It's sad that there are a lot crazies out there who do things like these with religious armor. Faithful pirates who feel that they are protected by their faith from the acts they commit. They attack their fellow citizens and leaders which makes it not about religion. I think it must be a security problem more than it is religion.

IMO it is not a religious war yet their faith has become part of their armor against committing crimes. The war is about land. They want the land back that was once theirs, and when they can't get it they turn to their faith for strength. They are also trying to conquer land in Africa and Asia. They want to bring their customs upon the land they want. So it be religion that is their biggest custom, but religion is not the purpose of their conquering desires. If anything it is their armor and weaponry.

Very well said! And I would add it's also about "power." The extremists want power so that they can inflict their way of life....their beliefs on everyone else. So, in some respects, it does come back to religion.....religous fanatics. But it's not a "religious war." The west, including Israel, has no problem with tolerating others' religions. We have all kinds of religions practiced in the U.S......and people are free to do so. It is the Islamic extremists who refuse to tolerate anyone else. They are the ones who have to change and become more tolerant of others.

Righty · #12 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 10:59 AM

Its an ethnic war, not a religious war.

Palestinians and Jews lived in peace for hundreds of years until European and Russian Jewish immigrants moved in. The Russian and European Jews looked white because they intermarried with Europeans. The jews who lived in Palestine for hundreds, thousands of years looked like Palestinians.

You know people, and how clannish we can get. You got a brown Palestinian, a bunch of white-jews, theres bound to be ethnic tensions.

kaladrew · #13 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 11:26 AM

"Incidentally, there is virtually no historical evidence that the ancient Egyptians captured and enslaved the Hebrews. It is a fairy tale. "

barney-fife · #14 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 11:31 AM

At least you made a post without mentioning Karl Rove. Congratulations.

barney-fife · #15 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 12:28 PM

Having a democratically elected government does not necessarily exempt that country from being an enemy of the US and free world. Hitler and the Nazi party were also democratically elected.

JavaBlack · #16 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by barney-fife";p=&quot

Having a democratically elected government does not necessarily exempt that country from being an enemy of the US and free world. Hitler and the Nazi party were also democratically elected.

To the extent that one who uses illegal methods to destroy the democratic system one is within and then bring an end to free elections and institutes a fascist system without any kind of oversight is democratic...

barney-fife · #17 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 01:07 PM

Are you speaking of the Nazi regime or Syria/Iran? Do you see any parallels? I do.

JavaBlack · #18 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 01:10 PM

There are certain similarities.

barney-fife · #19 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 01:29 PM

So, to the extent there are similarities, being a democratically elected government does not exempt them from being an enemy, especially as those similarities become more pronounced.

The truth is, tyranny is wholly incompatible with democracy, and so long as tyranny is the standard in a democracy, that democracy will not last.

JavaBlack · #20 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 01:35 PM

Of course I would also not call Iran or Syria as they stand today democracies. Iran could be one with a little tweeking, but not so long as theocrats rule.

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