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Old 07-30-2006, 03:10 PM
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Default HEZBOLLAH WANTS TO DESTROY ISRAEL = Bad?

Lets see...i keep seeing that it is WRONG for Hezbollah to desire the destruction of Israel. HOW IS IT RIGHT FOR ISRAEL TO DESIRE THE DESTRUCTION OF HEZBOLLAH?

Terrorism: the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature

Israel has killed 10 times more civilians in the past few weeks than Hezbollah....SO HOW IS HEZBOLLAH THE "TERRORIST". Israel has one of the strongest millitary's in the world...Could their actions...UNCALCULATED? Nonsence.
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Default That was Hezbollah's plan

The death of those citizens are Hezbollah's will. Those pansies store their weaponry in places such as schools and they hide among innocents. They do this so that the death of evil looks like the death of innocents. It is Hezbollah who goes after both Israeli citizens and Lebanese citizens. Hezbollah hides among children after firing upon Israel, so the death of children and innocents is their satanic desire.
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In about 1947, the UN gave a small piece of land....about the size of the state of New Jersey.....for Israel to have a state of their own, after 6 million of them had been exterminated in WWII. It made sense where it was....because it was their home land. All parties at the time agreed to it. Arabs lived and worked in Israel because Israel welcomed them and wanted to live with them and beside them in peace, finally. But in 1967, surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel. Israel won that conflict and recaptured the land. It's been like this ever since. Until some of these groups and nations decide that Israel is a legitimate state there and has the right to exist there......this will never end. Each time we get close, terrorist groups ruin the peace process. Every single U.S. president has tried...and tried hard for diplomacy. It hasn't worked.

If you have any suggestions on how to get the Arabs to finally accept Israel.....please share it with us. I'm not so sure it can be done.
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But in 1967, surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel. Israel won that conflict and recaptured the land. It's been like this ever since.
Why suddenly did these Arab nations decide to attack Israel?
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But in 1967, surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel. Israel won that conflict and recaptured the land. It's been like this ever since.
Why suddenly did these Arab nations decide to attack Israel?
There was nothing "sudden" about it...

They have been attempting to attack them since they became a Country.

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actually, to be precise, israel started the 1967 war. Just thought I'd add that. Though it was a pre-emptive strike in response to extreme belligerance of the armies of the Arab state.
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But in 1967, surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel. Israel won that conflict and recaptured the land. It's been like this ever since.
Why suddenly did these Arab nations decide to attack Israel?
Don't know. They just decided to gang up on Irael.

Egypt had concentrated large-scale forces in the Sinai peninsula.
Egypt's force buildup in the Sinai was accompanied by other serious steps: the United Nations Emergency Force stationed on the border between Egypt and Israel and Sharm el-Sheikh in 1957 and which had provided an actual separation between the countries was evacuated on May 19 upon the demands of the Egyptian president at the time, Gamal Abdel-Nasser; the Egyptian navy blocked the Straits of Tiran, located at the end of the Gulf of Eilat, on the night of May 22-23, 1967, preventing the passage of any Israeli vessels; and on May 30, 1967, Jordan joined the Egyptian-Syrian military alliance of 1966 and placed its army on both sides of the Jordan river under Egyptian command. Iraq followed suit. It agreed to send reinforcement and issued a warning order to two brigades: Contingents arrived from other Arab countries including Algeria and Kuwait. Israel was confronted by an Arab force of some 465,000 troops, over 2,880 tanks and 810 aircraft.

I don't call it a "pre-emptive strike" when several countries have surrounded you in that manner.....or threatened you. Israel reacted the same way we did in 1961 during the Bay of Pigs.

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actually, to be precise, israel started the 1967 war. Just thought I'd add that. Though it was a pre-emptive strike in response to extreme belligerance of the armies of the Arab state.
"Beligerance????" How about they had them freaking surrounded???? And blockaded them.

"Israel was confronted by an Arab force of some 465,000 troops, over 2,880 tanks and 810 aircraft."
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could you please tell us what innocent civilians the US bombed during or after the Bay of Pigs abortion.

i must have been asleep when the histroy was rewritten
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But in 1967, surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel. Israel won that conflict and recaptured the land. It's been like this ever since.
Why suddenly did these Arab nations decide to attack Israel?
There was nothing "sudden" about it...

They have been attempting to attack them since they became a Country.

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May be UN made a mistake then...May be Isreal should not have been given that piece of land...I am not sure.....Why Isreal needs UN to give them land ? And was UN well represented by all parties then ?
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