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WASHINGTON - Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), a senior Democrat in Congress and the dean of New York's congressional delegation, said Wednesday he'll retire if the Democrats don't retake control of the House this year.

"I'm a poker player and I've had good hands all night long. This is all in," Rangel said in an interview. "I would not put everything on the table if I thought for one minute we would lose."

Rangel, ranking Democrat on the House Ways & Means Committee, is 76 years old and has spent 35 years in Congress. The Democrats need to gain 15 seats in the 2006 midterm election to retake control of the House — a victory that would return Rangel to the chairmanship of the powerful committee.
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Charlie's amassed as much personal graft as he's ever likely to get, so why not bail out while the going is good? It's not like we're pulling back troops before the '06 election, and every serious political handicapper from Charlie Cook to Real Clear Politics, and dozens more, all say the House will stay in GOP hands---barely.
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Perhaps it looks to him like the Crats are gonna win (c-o-c-k-iness has always been a major flaw with the Crats)...
or maybe he's just looking for a way to retire with a splash. The guy is old.
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they are dead as a party. I hope they lose though just because there will be one less extremist in office.
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"Win" or "lose" all depends on where you set the bar. The Dems are gunning for control. But if they win only 14 of the 15 seats, did they "lose"? That'll be an odd thing for the Reps to claim victory on -- "we only got stomped, not destroyed!"
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14 seats isn't a high number, especially when there are nearly three times more open repub than dem seats. Out of 435 seats 14 is about 3%, not particularly significant. If they can't get that many now they never will. The repubs got it in 1994 after all.
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14 seats isn't a high number, especially when there are nearly three times more open repub than dem seats. Out of 435 seats 14 is about 3%, not particularly significant. If they can't get that many now they never will. The repubs got it in 1994 after all.
You leave out the effects of incumbency and gerrymandering. Every analysis I've read says Dems would have to practically run the table on "competitive" seats in order to retake the House. Now, maybe the GOP's troubles are creating more "competitive" seats than the analysts are seeing. But the raw numbers stopped mattering years ago once the politicians figured out how to draw safe districts.
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they are dead as a party. I hope they lose though just because there will be one less extremist in office.
I disagree they're dead as a party. Tantalyzingly cl.ose, to be sure, but nothing here is a given until the GOP holds veto-proof majorities in both the House and Senate, and at least two more conservatives are on the Supreme Court.

They'll do reasonably well in '06 and by '08 when the bloodbath begins over Shrillery, we could see a fine chasm open up between the libs and the Dems' languishing-but-not-forgotten moderate wing. If this gap can be kept open until 2012, then yes, I'd say the Dems are then a dying party. Not before.

Losing people like Rangel and Cynthia McKinney---another pride and joy of the "Racially Tolerant Democrats (TM)"---will help not harm the Dems. They need another ouster like that slimy fool Tiny Tommy Daschle, the midget whom John Thune whipped like a rented dog when Tommy forgot where his home residence was.

Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, any one of them could use the boot. If it happens, the wedge will be there that the GOP can ride hard and long, well past 2012.
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gerrymandering affected the dems positively in 1998 so I see why it would impact them negatively this election. That said, the repubs still have far more empty seats. If they can't win half of those, which is what they need to get control, in a time when dislike of what the repubs have done in the house is at an all time high then it will never happen. Repubs did it in a time when there was no war, no immigration bills and no high deficits.
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Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.
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he'll retire if the Democrats don't retake control of the House this year

The REAL question is what will he do if the Democrats gain say 5 seat?
Retire?..I bet not.


Does anyone really believe the Democrats are going to take control of either the House or the Senate?

Its August 2nd ..Besides some of the most moronic "plans" ever seen by mankind for Wars and the usual Bush Hate.....what are they running on??? what do they stand for??? WHAT is their purpose???

They have none....Ironically thats one thing the Far Left has achieved. They have made the Democrats as empty as them.
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Its August 2nd ..Besides some of the most moronic "plans" ever seen by mankind for Wars and the usual Bush Hate.....what are they running on??? what do they stand for??? WHAT is their purpose???

They have none....Ironically thats one thing the Far Left has achieved. They have made the Democrats as empty as them.
Well-said, though you're underestimating the news media, which is solidly against the GOP. They'll let the Dems lose Iraq and make it look like it was entirely Mr. Bush's fault.
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