http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/wo...rtner=homepage

That's around 110 per day...

And around 18.000 for the year so far.

"The Baghdad morgue reported receiving 1,855 bodies in July, more than half of the total deaths recorded in the country."

So let's see, if half of 'em were in Baghdad, that means the other half must have been - you guessed it - outside of Baghdad.

So will all you Bush-o-nauts please tell me again, how well it's going in Iraq, and how 16 of the 18 provinces have been "pacified", and it's only really Baghdad that "remains a problem"?

nnonsqtr you love to bring up the negative don't you ? You are obviously hopeless and blinded by your hatred of the W. Not only do you bring up those 3400 Iraqi civilians killed in July 2006 but you have the audacity to quote the New York Times and you know that the NEOCONartists don't like the NYT.

Did you not hear the venerable War President when he celebrated "mission acomplished"?

Did you not hear Prez W when he talked about all the "votin that those Iraq fellers have been doin lately" ?

Did you not hear the W when he said that there was democracy breaking out all over the Mideast ?

Did you not listen when JP sang "HAPPY BIRTHDAY , we love you Mr. president" ?

Instead of "complainin bout" them few dead Iraqi fellers why don't you 'splain' to them that "freedom is not free". That is actually a very true statement. Don't know if the Iraqi's will buy it but you can try.
onsqtr you love to bring up the negative don't you ? You are obviously hopeless and blinded by your hatred of the W. Not only do you bring up those 3400 Iraqi civilians killed in July 2006 but you have the audacity to quote the New York Times and you know that the NEOCONartists don't like the NYT.

Did you not hear the venerable War President when he celebrated "mission acomplished"?

Did you not hear Prez W when he talked about all the "votin that those Iraq fellers have been doin lately" ?

Did you not hear the W when he said that there was democracy breaking out all over the Mideast ?

Did you not listen when JP sang "HAPPY BIRTHDAY , we love you Mr. president" ?

Instead of "complainin bout" them few dead Iraqi fellers why don't you 'splain' to them that "freedom is not free". That is actually a very true statement. Don't know if the Iraqi's will buy it but you can try.

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Oh goody another one of these.

A person who wants and advocates constantly packing up and leaving pointing to the people he wants to leave behind being killed by those he wants to run from.


I have an idea do what you will do IF you got your running thing to fly...

Ignore It.




Up there on your pile of corspes admonishing those who want to stop those who are adding to the pile.


Terroists are Murdering people and you advocate running from them. So do the dead a courtesy and don't use them when you don't even care if 10x more die.

Duh2 says Riddle me this Duh !! If we decided to invade Iraq should we not have had plans in place to disarm the potential terrorists when we invaded so that one group of terrorists did not kill a group of innocents just because those innocents belonged to the same sect or ethnic group as the other group of terrorists??

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"I was born at night, but it was not last night night"

We did.
2 things though.

1. The expectations on the intensity of the terror where not correct. (you show me any war with a plan at the beginning that holds up in the end and you just showed me a fiction novel)

2. YOU... Nonsqtr and many others don't wish to use the force necessry to stop them and haven't since the beginning. Its always been wishy washy dontl step on toes with you guys.


Besides what do you care?..you don't
....pack up your crap, run home, ignore it. Its what you want to do anyway.



Pointing to the number of Iraqis being murdered by those you want to run from as if it in anyway supports your guys opinions. LMFAO

Come on Duh2, this is another case of Bushie and Rummy ignoring advice from their generals and cherry-picking only the intelligence that they wanted to hear. In case you hadn't noticed, that's a pattern with Georgie and his ship of fools. Everybody warned them about future insurgencies, but NO.... they didn't want to listen. That's a massive oversight - and unfortunately it's par for the course with our weasel-in-chief and his minions.

Hogwash. Ha - even Ken Mehlman has changed his rhetoric about Iraq - now it's not "stay the course" anymore, it's "win by adapting". What a schmuck.

See Duh2, the problem is that Bushie is torturing the wrong guys. If he were dong that stuff to OBL's people it would be one thing, but NO.... OBL's still out there running around, free as a bird.

Do y'all realize that the numbers appear to be for the total civilian deaths?

I noticed in the article that the terms used were "civilian deaths" or "violent deaths" but never "violent civilian deaths". Every day there are headlines such as "Baghdad bomb kills ##". The deaths are not secret and surely the violence in Baghdad has escalated, but something is fishy about the article itself. Further inquiry brings up this article:
Baghdad Morgue Tallies 1,815 Bodies in July
This is puzzling. It appears that our friends at the NYTimes would like you to believe that these deaths were all the result of the war when in fact they were not. Strangely enough, whether you take the 1815 number or 1855, the resulting death rate is far less than the death rate for Los Angeles County. For the death rate to equal that of LA County, over 3000 Baghdad people would die. Please fell free to help me clear up this puzzle. I know Baghdad is not a safe place, but is LA County really THAT bad?

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Order without liberty and liberty without order are equally destructive. - Theodore Roosevelt

See, this is the typical stupidity the Bush-o-nauts tend to dredge up when all else fails. They'd rather have us debating about "nothing" as long it's on their terms. Hey 12th, how much time did you spend nit-picking the words in the article?

Gee, non, I guess I'd have to say that you apparently don't understand what "killed" means. If "as many as 90 percent of the total died violent deaths", what "killed" the others? Is a car accident a violent death?

I gave you something to think about and your brain short-circuited and spewed out a simplistic ad hominem. A typical response from someone who fails to comprehend simple facts. What part of "TOTAL DEATHS" don't you understand?

P.S. Your post, by virtue of having no substance and being no more than an attempt at flaming, qualifies as trolling. I'm keeping track you know. Next time you have nothing of substance to add to a topic, you should think about not posting at all.

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Order without liberty and liberty without order are equally destructive. - Theodore Roosevelt

Ooh, a veiled threat! Wow, I musta touched a nerve...

Okay, so would you like to break it down for us 12th? How many were due to actual combat violence, and how many were just "car accidents", as you say?