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Old 08-21-2006, 07:54 AM
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The Military was NOT built so that people could get an Education, and just serve their "weekends". If they don't like their duties, they should just quit. Dishonorable dischage and all.

That way, those who don't "believe" in this War have their "way out" and won't get anything but what they deserve for trying to use the Military for their own selfish wants.
Sorry, Gaar, but I disagree. Many young people in poor areas of our country go into the army because no other opportunities are available. I had rather my tax dollars go to helping kids get an education and training them to be an elite force to defend our country than sending them to die for foreign governments.
Anyone joining the military who doesn't know that for the last 90 years they are constantly being used as a world interventionist police force is as dumb as rocks.
Sorry you don't know the difference between peace keeping missions and obliterating terrorists and as Bush says, "We're fighting a different kind of war, and it's haaard, it's haaard...."

Intelligent people would argue that once the mercenary forces get the place cleaned out it would then give our peace keeping forces something to work with where they won't be 20 steps behind the enemy.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:58 AM
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The Military was NOT built so that people could get an Education, and just serve their "weekends". If they don't like their duties, they should just quit. Dishonorable dischage and all.

That way, those who don't "believe" in this War have their "way out" and won't get anything but what they deserve for trying to use the Military for their own selfish wants.
Sorry, Gaar, but I disagree. Many young people in poor areas of our country go into the army because no other opportunities are available. I had rather my tax dollars go to helping kids get an education and training them to be an elite force to defend our country than sending them to die for foreign governments.
Anyone joining the military who doesn't know that for the last 90 years they are constantly being used as a world interventionist police force is as dumb as rocks.
Sorry you don't know the difference between peace keeping missions and obliterating terrorists and as Bush says, "We're fighting a different kind of war, and it's haaard, it's haaard...."

Intelligent people would argue that once the mercenary forces get the place cleaned out it would then give our peace keeping forces something to work with where they won't be 20 steps behind the enemy.
The terrorists directly target the, "Peacekeeping" forces because they are the most lightly armed. What planet are you living on? The IED's target convoys, and the terrorists kidnap soldiers on patrol. Terrorists do not target Marines on fully-equipped combat missions, with artillery, air and armor support at their fingertips.
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:16 AM
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ALWAYS with the name calling from conservatives, why is that?
So as to distinguish a "Loony Liberal" from a TRUE Liberal. I don't want to disrespect people that I admire by associating them with people like yourself.

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The reason our military is on trial is because of the rules of war. We do NOT abide by them and tell me, how many of them are getting the death penalty or life in prison for murdering and torture?
Sure we do, that is why we PROSECUTE people who do such things, and they are a VERY SMALL percentage of those who Serve.

That people, like you, try and make them ALL to be "like that" says much more about YOU than it does them...

And you wonder why I call you a Loony Liberal?

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I love my country and I love and respect our military
And YOU show that love and respect by calling them murderers and the like?!?!?

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Come on Conservatives, if you REALLY want to win the war on terror, then admit we need to FIGHT it on a level playing field. Be American patriots, bring our kids home and let the killing machines kill the terrorists.
Yes, I want to WIN this WAR, and I am GLAD we are FINALLY FIGHTING IT with OUR MILITARY!

And Loony Liberals will see in November that the MAJORITY of Americans want to Fight it as well!

We don't want to go back to the Liberal way of ignoring it until they "strike us", and then lob a few Cruise Missiles at them. We need to Fight it with all of the resources we have at our disposal.

Now sure what you don't understand about that?

The funny thing about you Loony Liberals is how you "profess" we need to 'fight fire with fire', but when the President tries some "new things" to try and hunt them down you all go off the deep end about him becoming a tyrant!?!?!?!?

Please make up your minds!

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Old 08-21-2006, 08:20 AM
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...to babysit someone who doesnt' even want us there...
They have Elected Officials, and they are NOT asking us to leave.

If they do, I am sure we will.

So you don't mind letting them speak for themselves and not YOU speak for them, do you?

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The Military was NOT built so that people could get an Education, and just serve their "weekends". If they don't like their duties, they should just quit. Dishonorable dischage and all.

That way, those who don't "believe" in this War have their "way out" and won't get anything but what they deserve for trying to use the Military for their own selfish wants.
Sorry, Gaar, but I disagree. Many young people in poor areas of our country go into the army because no other opportunities are available. I had rather my tax dollars go to helping kids get an education and training them to be an elite force to defend our country than sending them to die for foreign governments.
Anyone joining the military who doesn't know that for the last 90 years they are constantly being used as a world interventionist police force is as dumb as rocks.
Sorry you don't know the difference between peace keeping missions and obliterating terrorists and as Bush says, "We're fighting a different kind of war, and it's haaard, it's haaard...."

Intelligent people would argue that once the mercenary forces get the place cleaned out it would then give our peace keeping forces something to work with where they won't be 20 steps behind the enemy.
The terrorists directly target the, "Peacekeeping" forces because they are the most lightly armed. What planet are you living on? The IED's target convoys, and the terrorists kidnap soldiers on patrol. Terrorists do not target Marines on fully-equipped combat missions, with artillery, air and armor support at their fingertips.
Of course the terrorists are targeting the peacekeeping forces. That's why we need to get rid of the terrorists so there won't be any to target. When that happens, our peacekeeping forces will be able to keep the peace among the people in those countries we're keeping peace for.

That's why we need someone to go into Iraq and clean out the terrorists without them killing our young men and women who have completed their job as well as they could. Once the mercenaries clean up the joint, bring back the ones we want to use to keep the peace.

Who knows, the mercenaries will probably, do such a fantastic job and either kill all the terrorists, without bombing whole villages of innocent people that we may not even need anyone to keep the peace. The citizens of Iraq will be safe and will be able to control their own destiny.
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...to babysit someone who doesnt' even want us there...
They have Elected Officials, and they are NOT asking us to leave.

If they do, I am sure we will.

So you don't mind letting them speak for themselves and not YOU speak for them, do you?

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Oh, ok, so they have their own government, they are free, there are no WMD, there is no more Saddam...so what the heck are we still there for? Seems to me it's the one thing Bush promised he would do: NATION BUILD.

Do you think WE can keep them from an all out civil war? That's not our job, they have an elected government, as you say, it's not our business if they don't want democracy for themselves. It's not our job to imposes a form of government on a people who don't want it.

I wonder how long any invader of the USA would be around if THEY decided they don't like OUR dictatorial leader, George W. Bush, and decided that OUR form of government isn't suitable to THEM?

Would you support someone else who thought THEIR way is better than OURS and changed it?
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Interesting concept.

I think we could hire the Russian mob to go in there.....
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Interesting concept.

I think we could hire the Russian mob to go in there.....
We could hire anyone who is a killing machine and would do it for money. The terrorist certainly couldn't pay them MORE to turn on us because Bush said that all their funding accounts are frozen.

Of course, we might have to sit on Bushie for a day or so and pound it into his thick head that his kissin buddy the prince needs to have his accounts for sponsoring terrorism frozen too.
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It's not our job to imposes a form of government on a people who don't want it.
Again, you don't mind them SPEAKING for themselves, do you?

It seems 12+ MILLION of them do indeed WANT Democracy, given they went to the POLLS even under the threat of DEATH!

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How do we know we are killing terrorists? Everybody has a paramilitary force fighting to get and keep their piece of the pie. The number of al Qaeda actually on the ground fighting is probably minimal.

All we are doing is killing other non-terrorists and destroying property that has no relation to terrorism whatsoever. We could kill every last one of the 12 million Iraqi citizens and soldiers and not make a dent in the number or role of terrorists in the world. Most of the terrorists probably are in Lebanon where they can shoot at an Israeli soldier who is really the enemy.

This shoot-out is doing absolutely nothing to make the US safer, or helping stop terrorism. I am sure the rest of the nations of the world are shaking their heads thinking why do we persevere in such a futile, meaningless war.
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