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08-20-2006, 07:52 PM
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Solution to the War on Terror
My belief that the only way to make a dent in a war on terror is to first bring home ALL our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and then use the money we're spending on nation building to pay private groups who train and use mercenaries.
Send out the mercenaries, no uniforms, just big guns and any other devices they'd need to get the job done and let them go. Let them abuse, torture and do everything else the terrorists do...tit for tat. NO repercussions for fighting fire with fire. The playing field would be leveled...dirty fighting terrorists with no rules which we're losing to now, and dirty fighting mercenaries who know how to fight just as dirty. That's the ONLY way I see that we can get ahead in this battle and it can be done without getting some young kid killed who joined the guard or the service to go to school, get an education and just wants to serve their weekends. It will leave OUR military on OUR shores to protect OUR shores and defend US from foreign invaders. Our military is for our defense, NOT nation building, or babysitting while some government who never asked to be turned into a democracy is dragging their feet and our men and women are dying for them. If our military men and women are going to give their lives for OUR country, for OUR protection, let them stay here and defend us. The Bushies are always saying that there are no other alternatives to what's going on now or that the liberals never offer any alternatives...where I just provided one.  
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08-20-2006, 08:50 PM
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So we should become "like them" in order to beat them?
Sorry, I don't think I like that idea. The Military was NOT built so that people could get an Education, and just serve their "weekends". If they don't like their duties, they should just quit. Dishonorable dischage and all. That way, those who don't "believe" in this War have their "way out" and won't get anything but what they deserve for trying to use the Military for their own selfish wants. Regards, Gaar
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08-21-2006, 01:01 AM
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No mercenaries, but Civil War
You can rest assured that mercenary fighters are still very much alive in the world. Africa is filled with them - and I recall reading where American soldiers were at times hired by foreign groups to perform a special mission.
Personally, I see no reason at all why we must remain involved in Iraq. Why hire mercenaries - what would be their mission? To keep the present puppet government in place? I am quite certain the democratic government that the US carefully set up is doomed to fail - if for no other reason than no self respecting Iraqi wants to live under the Constitution set up by another country. I can't understand why people are so adverse to letting the Civil War, which has been festering for a long time, just be allowed to continue its natural course. Yes, there will be bloodshed and fighting, but this is the way nations evolve into modern countries. Perhaps it will mean the partitioning of Iraq, or perhaps one faction will finally "win the war". Regardless of what happens, the pent up frustration that seems to be so pervasive in Iraq will have been exhausted, and peace will return. If the new country expects to participate in the world, it must obey the universal norms that all nations expect of one another. In short, a Civil War is the only way a final solution can be found.
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08-21-2006, 05:29 AM
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08-21-2006, 06:27 AM
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Send in the Clowns
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Are you suggesting we should just sit back and play patty-cakes while the enemy is kidnapping, chopping off heads and doing other wartime atrocities? If we let the mercenaries fight them the same way they are fighting us, it would put an end to them. The problem we have NOW is that when we DO try to fight them the way they are fighting WE are breaking the rules of war. Using a mercenary force will free us to get the job done without having to collect caskets with some mother's son inside it, or having to watch soldiers who were "just following orders" land in military court for doing something they were NEVER TRAINED to do, which is to fight this war on terror. The WHOLE Bush administration tells us that we are fighting a DIFFERENT kind of war. Well, in order to fight a different kind of war...we need to use a different kind of warrior. How do YOU figure we would have a chance to win this thing? We're certainly not gaining any ground the way we ARE fighting it. Yes, fight fire with fire. About those that join the military. You do realize don't you that the recruiters go into schools to recruit kids. They go after a lot of them who really have no future, can't afford and education and some of whom, if they didn't join the military would end up in jail sooner or later. The military gets them to enlist by telling them they have a chance for a good education, a place to live with their clothing and meals all provided for, good military benefits when they get out..and oh, by the way, you might get called to go to serve your country in battle sometime, but don't worry about it, you will be safe. It will be a good thing to have on your resume when you get out if you don't decide to make a career out of it. I know how recruiters are...one of my best friends WAS one for the NAVY. I know all the stories, he'd drive his Corvette to the school, all shiney and new and tell the kids that if they join up, they'll be able to afford fast cars and that serving in the military is just like having any other 9 to 5 job for the most part. Of course these tactics aren't going over so well now since everyone who's been watching knows that their chances of just having a 9 to 5 job in the states or on some exotic island are slim to none. Recruitment is down generally. We need fighting machines...mercenaries are our only chance IF we want to win. Then again, I'm not so sure we really want to win, because we have NO chance by going in the direction we're going in now. If Bush is to meet his goals to end terrorism and do all the things he promised to do, we just do NOT have enough troops. You can't keep sending the same troops in 2 or 3 times..they are NOT machines. They break down, get injured, get killed. I'd rather have paid mercenaries than have to have a draft in the next few years.
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08-21-2006, 06:35 AM
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This Gun's For Hire
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0404/S00052.htm http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/archive...itary8-97.html http://www.faoa.org/journal/newmerc3.html
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08-21-2006, 07:05 AM
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We also need to "train" our own Troops to be able to do better than "mercenaries" could do, but we are already very close in that regard anyway. Take a look at the comparative Death Tolls for each side, and you see factors of anywhere from 5 to 20 to 1, which is as good as any mercenary force has ever done on that high end. Perhaps we should PAY our Soldiers more and train them in some "new" tactics that we start ALLOWING them to do when facing an enemy that does NOT recognize Geneva Convention Rules of engagement? Loony Liberals don't get to have it BOTH ways do they? They don't get to (*)(*)(*)(*) and moan about our tactics, while suggesting we use tactics that are to become 'just like them', do they? We have a Military for a reason, just as we have a CIA and the like. Perhaps it is time we "loosened up" their "Rules" they work under in order to do a better job? Regards, Gaar
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08-21-2006, 07:15 AM
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08-21-2006, 07:19 AM
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Tit for Tat
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The reason our military is on trial is because of the rules of war. We do NOT abide by them and tell me, how many of them are getting the death penalty or life in prison for murdering and torture? I love my country and I love and respect our military that's why I want them home protecting and defending US, the US citizens. Nation building and paying billions upon billions for them to babysit someone who doesnt' even want us there is NOT defending my country or my rights. Why don't you want to see the vermin we're fighting defeated rather than have thousands of caskets and even more permanently injured and maimed young soldiers when it isn't necessary? Bin Laden attacked us..let them stay in Afghanistan and get the creepy vermin, but get the heck out of Iraq where those young men and women are sitting ducks who are NOT allowed to fight terrorists on the same level as the terrorists are fighting. What is it with Bush conservatives? Don't they WANT to win the war on terror? Don't they WANT to kill terrorists? Oh, and never mind the numbers...they don't have numbers of how many terrorists that we've killed...any more than they can tell us how many people we've saved by illegal wiretapping. Come on Conservatives, if you REALLY want to win the war on terror, then admit we need to FIGHT it on a level playing field. Be American patriots, bring our kids home and let the killing machines kill the terrorists.
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