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Old 09-03-2006, 02:04 AM
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(AP) NEW YORK Vermont schoolboy was within his rights to wear a T-shirt depicting George W. Bush as a chicken and accusing him of being a former alcohol and cocaine abuser, an appeals court ruled.

Zachary Guiles' school violated the First Amendment when it ordered him to cover parts of the shirt, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan said Wednesday.

Guiles was a 13-year-old seventh-grader at Williamstown Middle High School in Williamstown, Vt., in May 2004 when he wore the shirt, which he had bought at an anti-war rally, to classes once a week for two months. Complaints from a fellow student and her mother who had different political views caused school officials to take a closer look.

Although teachers had told the complaining student that the shirt was political speech and protected by the Constitution, the mother complained to a student support specialist, who decided images of drugs and alcohol violated the school's dress code, the appeals court said.

The front of the shirt had Bush's name and the words "Chicken-Hawk-In-Chief" beneath it. Below the words was a large picture of the president's head, wearing a helmet, superimposed on the body of a chicken.

To one side of the president on the T-shirt, three lines of cocaine, a razor blade and a straw appear. Elsewhere on the shirt, the president is shown holding a martini glass with an olive in it.

After the school official ordered Guiles to turn the shirt inside out, tape over the shirt's images of drugs and alcohol or change shirts, he returned to school another day with duct tape covering the offending images and "Censored" scrawled on the tape.

After Guiles, who was suspended for one day because of the shirt, sued school officials in U.S. District Court in Vermont, a judge found that his First Amendment rights were violated but that the school could censor some images on the shirt.

The appeals court said the school had no right to censor any part of the shirt.

"The pictures are an important part of the political message Guiles wished to convey, accentuating the anti-drug (and anti-Bush) message," the appeals court wrote. "By covering them defendants diluted Guiles's message, blunting its force and impact."

A telephone message left with a lawyer for the school was not immediately returned Wednesday.

Guiles, now 15, said he was pleased with the appeals court ruling.

"I think this is a very good sign that even with the current administration and the way the country is going there can still be a justice that allows free speech," he said.

His lawyer, Stephen L. Saltonstall, said the ruling goes further than previous law regarding what can be censored in schools.

"This case, as I see it, stands for the principle that schools cannot censor political T-shirts except in very limited circumstances, such as if they use swear words or some kind of sexual reference," he said. "It gives students a lot more freedom than they've had before to express their political views in school."

He said Guiles is a straight-A student and a talented trombonist with the Vermont Youth Orchestra, which has performed at Carnegie Hall in Manhattan.

The White House had no comment on the ruling or the depiction on Guiles' shirt.

Days before the 2000 presidential election, Bush was caught withholding information about a drunken-driving arrest in Maine dating to 1976. He said at the time he had not been specific about the incident because he wanted to keep the information from his twin daughters.

Bush gave up alcohol about 20 years ago after concluding he was drinking too much. He once referred to his youthful drinking as a "young and irresponsible" stage of his life. Rumors have circulated that Bush used drugs, and he often is satirized as a beer-swilling frat boy.
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You are really picking for news. IF this is the best you can do to try and smear our President, you've failed. Especially considering in your world this young boy would be beheaded or would disappear into the night if he did such a thing against Allah. It's called......democracy and freedom. You should try it sometime. You'd really like it; everyone does!!
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(AP) NEW YORK Vermont schoolboy was within his rights to wear a T-shirt depicting George W. Bush as a chicken and accusing him of being a former alcohol and cocaine abuser, an appeals court ruled.

Zachary Guiles' school violated the First Amendment when it ordered him to cover parts of the shirt, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan said Wednesday.

Guiles was a 13-year-old seventh-grader at Williamstown Middle High School in Williamstown, Vt., in May 2004 when he wore the shirt, which he had bought at an anti-war rally, to classes once a week for two months. Complaints from a fellow student and her mother who had different political views caused school officials to take a closer look.

Although teachers had told the complaining student that the shirt was political speech and protected by the Constitution, the mother complained to a student support specialist, who decided images of drugs and alcohol violated the school's dress code, the appeals court said.

The front of the shirt had Bush's name and the words "Chicken-Hawk-In-Chief" beneath it. Below the words was a large picture of the president's head, wearing a helmet, superimposed on the body of a chicken.

To one side of the president on the T-shirt, three lines of cocaine, a razor blade and a straw appear. Elsewhere on the shirt, the president is shown holding a martini glass with an olive in it.

After the school official ordered Guiles to turn the shirt inside out, tape over the shirt's images of drugs and alcohol or change shirts, he returned to school another day with duct tape covering the offending images and "Censored" scrawled on the tape.

After Guiles, who was suspended for one day because of the shirt, sued school officials in U.S. District Court in Vermont, a judge found that his First Amendment rights were violated but that the school could censor some images on the shirt.

The appeals court said the school had no right to censor any part of the shirt.

"The pictures are an important part of the political message Guiles wished to convey, accentuating the anti-drug (and anti-Bush) message," the appeals court wrote. "By covering them defendants diluted Guiles's message, blunting its force and impact."

A telephone message left with a lawyer for the school was not immediately returned Wednesday.

Guiles, now 15, said he was pleased with the appeals court ruling.

"I think this is a very good sign that even with the current administration and the way the country is going there can still be a justice that allows free speech," he said.

His lawyer, Stephen L. Saltonstall, said the ruling goes further than previous law regarding what can be censored in schools.

"This case, as I see it, stands for the principle that schools cannot censor political T-shirts except in very limited circumstances, such as if they use swear words or some kind of sexual reference," he said. "It gives students a lot more freedom than they've had before to express their political views in school."

He said Guiles is a straight-A student and a talented trombonist with the Vermont Youth Orchestra, which has performed at Carnegie Hall in Manhattan.

The White House had no comment on the ruling or the depiction on Guiles' shirt.

Days before the 2000 presidential election, Bush was caught withholding information about a drunken-driving arrest in Maine dating to 1976. He said at the time he had not been specific about the incident because he wanted to keep the information from his twin daughters.

Bush gave up alcohol about 20 years ago after concluding he was drinking too much. He once referred to his youthful drinking as a "young and irresponsible" stage of his life. Rumors have circulated that Bush used drugs, and he often is satirized as a beer-swilling frat boy.

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Old 09-03-2006, 10:23 AM
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jp5 why u frustrated .we can do it against our leaders if they act shamelessly like bush but we will never do it against our creator.u sound now like bombeni and thanks super man .

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jp5 look at this.i came to know now that your president is a drunkard .
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This thread has been moved from Latest World News to Current Events simply because the rest of the world couldn't care less what a U.S. Court ruled about some t-shirt they wear to school.

IOW: It ain't a "World Event"
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You are really picking for news. IF this is the best you can do to try and smear our President, you've failed. Especially considering in your world this young boy would be beheaded or would disappear into the night if he did such a thing against Allah.
JP I read it as if you are equating W to Allah I Realize that you hold the W in the highest regard but must you equate W to "Allah" !! The "Allah" that the Muslims revere is the same God that Jews and Christians believe in the problem is that the Muslims took a wrong road through Mohammad. Believe me JP no matter how great you THINK W is I must assure you that W is not God, he is only a president. Also no matter what that wacky women Kate from Florida says God does not appoint our leaders, we elect them, at least that's how it is in our country on our planet.
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This thread has been moved from Latest World News to Current Events simply because the rest of the world couldn't care less what a U.S. Court ruled about some t-shirt they wear to school.

IOW: It ain't a "World Event"

It was a test of our freedom and it just sailed right over your head.
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I hope someone expresses his freedom by kicking the lil brats ass and ramming the shirt up his ass.
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Good for that kid. It's a shame that the right would like to curb our God-given rights. Ah aren't they the true defenders of freedom. How can those on the right justify the Bush doctorine, nation-building, and democracy if this Administration tramples our own civil liberties.
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now, if he wore a pro Bush shirt he'd be on every Fox news show and posters would be allowed to post about it in every topic.
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