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The Godless democrats keep harping on the war in Iraq and feeding the media until unsuspecting middle America starts believing it. The best way for the GOP to win back America, is to keep to their old fashioned, middle American values. Instead of focusing on Iraq, they should:


1. Re-affirm their stance on marriage being between a man and woman
only.
2. Re-affirm their position on abortion, especially parental permission for
underage minors.
3. Encourage school prayer for those who choose to practice it.

These issues matter greatly to most Americans and don't cost a penny to implicate.

Other than the Iraq war, what do the democrats have? Not much, and what they do want always hits hard in the pocketbook.
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1. Re-affirm their stance on marriage being between a man and woman
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2. Re-affirm their position on abortion, especially parental permission for
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3. Encourage school prayer for those who choose to practice it.
men and women can still get married
you can still choose to - or not to - have an abortion
anyone can pray in school

or are you saying the GOP should have as its platform that they want to oppress those who think other than they:

ONLY men and women can get married
abortions will be outlawed
others will be coerced to pray with you in school

which is the platform you are advocating for the GOP?
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what makes you think you are in touch with most americans?
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The Godless democrats keep harping on the war in Iraq and feeding the media until unsuspecting middle America starts believing it. The best way for the GOP to win back America, is to keep to their old fashioned, middle American values. Instead of focusing on Iraq, they should:


1. Re-affirm their stance on marriage being between a man and woman
only.
2. Re-affirm their position on abortion, especially parental permission for
underage minors.
3. Encourage school prayer for those who choose to practice it.

These issues matter greatly to most Americans and don't cost a penny to implicate.

Other than the Iraq war, what do the democrats have? Not much, and what they do want always hits hard in the pocketbook.
Implement, not implicate. As in, Democrats will never implement fiscal restraint, implicating them as socialists and tax-and-spenders.
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Any Republican who runs on those 3 issues in the next 60 days is going to get CRUSHED!!

Why don't you call youe local Congressman or Woman and ask them why your top 3 is not high on their campaign platform?
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The Godless democrats keep harping on the war in Iraq and feeding the media until unsuspecting middle America starts believing it. The best way for the GOP to win back America, is to keep to their old fashioned, middle American values. Instead of focusing on Iraq, they should:


1. Re-affirm their stance on marriage being between a man and woman
only.
2. Re-affirm their position on abortion, especially parental permission for
underage minors.
3. Encourage school prayer for those who choose to practice it.

These issues matter greatly to most Americans and don't cost a penny to implicate.

Other than the Iraq war, what do the democrats have? Not much, and what they do want always hits hard in the pocketbook.
In other words focus on stuff that doesn't matter. Because the real issues are always have a leftist bias.
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The Godless democrats...
I find members of any party to be truly godless only when they use religious rhetoric to try to advance their political careers. That is called hypocrisy. Republicans got a head start on it, but Democrats are trying to imitate the Elmer Gantry act. As someone who hates... er... likes both parties equally, your ideas should sway me towards the GOP if you are correct.

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1. Re-affirm their stance on marriage being between a man and woman only.
I disagree. Marriage is between any two unrelated adults. I support gay marriage, though I consider it a 10th Amendment issue until and unless homosexuality is proven to be inborn.

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2. Re-affirm their position on abortion, especially parental permission for underage minors.
I am 100% pro-life from the moment of conception for rational rather than religious reasons. I'm opposed to any exceptions and I oppose the legality of pills that sometimes act as abortifacients (e.g. "the pill"). I consider abortion to be the greatest evil of our times. Why then, don't I lean towards the GOP? It isn't serious about being pro-life. Of course it will follow the polls and support parental notification and oppose partial birth abortion, but as someone who is very dedicated to the pro-life movement, I am certain that it will do no more than that. Were I capable of it, I would ban all abortions nationwide, but nothing approaching that is going to happen for a long time. Therefore, I don't factor abortion into who I'm going to vote for. No one can stop it until the majority of people unequivocally see it as a wrong rather than a right. So the crumbs Republicans throw to the pro-life movement don't impress me and abortion won't be an issue I even take into consideration in future elections, since neither major party is serious about stopping it.

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3. Encourage school prayer for those who choose to practice it.
In other words, you want theocracy. I'm a Christian, but I don't. I support school vouchers, including for religious private schools, but I support church/state separation.

Realistically, the Republican Party would have a chance to get my votes if:

1. It stopped deficit spending- period.

2. It returned to a paleoconservative isolationist foreign policy rather than a hawkish neoconservative one- or at the very least returned to Eisenhower's realism.

3. It stopped publicity stunts about religion, homosexuals and so forth.

Get back to me when the GOP does those things (I won't hold my breath). I'll most likely be voting for a Libertarian in 2008. The government, as usual, is doing more harm than good, and at least Libertarians would get the government out of the way.
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Any Republican who runs on those 3 issues in the next 60 days is going to get CRUSHED!!

Why don't you call youe local Congressman or Woman and ask them why your top 3 is not high on their campaign platform?
what do you think pushed Bush over the top in 2004? We were at war with Iraq but the dems hadn't got the ball rolling yet.
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Ken Blackwell's work in Ohio.
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We were at war with Iraq but the dems hadn't got the ball rolling yet
Bush's vote totals were shockingly low for a wartime president.

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1. Is definately a winner. Easily gaining majority favor.

2. This issue is mosly dead . Most people are in favor of allowing abortion up to a point. Thse who would actually vote based soley on it are almost extinct.

3. This would have some effect..alot of people are tired of the secularisation of all aspects of their life.


Really it depends on region..barring #1 wich is almost universal in favor of keeping..the other two are district by disctrict cases.

Anyway...

Heres a site that good to watch for this election.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/

On the right side is a district by district map and expected scorecard.
Its pretty clear theres alot of hype going on in much of themedia but not alot of substance to that hype.

IMO the best things Republicans can do overall as a party this election is make the Democrats talk. Democrats have nothing... no real solutions at all. More they talk the better.

IE yesterday they came out and said that if you elect Democrats they wil lower Gas prices. How..well they never said...
IOW they are throwing out simplistic rhetoric and simplistic slutions to real problems.
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