ahlan wa sahlan

Another day of happy annual of September 11th has come upon us. By the Will of Allah (Subhanahu wa-Ta'ala) in the year 2001, the brave Moslem men took in to the perilous task of defending their Faith and Family from the clutches of an imperialistic expansionist empire, The United States of America. The aim of such action was to send a ever-piercing message to the Western World: You are exploiting our people and our generosity and the present course of action must stop or the whole Moslem world will declare Jihad against the profane empire of USA.

As a humble and devout Moslem man, people usually come to see my opinion on the incident of September the 11th, asking my insight on it. Their faces thend to drop when I tell them that the strike was fully justified both on political andreligious level.

Our Faith Islaam as told by the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) encourages us to defend our Faith in two levels, the Defensive Jihad being the principle that it is a responsibility to for every capable Moslem to defend the homes of their brothers in Faith under attack, the Offensive Jihad being the procudure to tax the ungodly people in the name of Allah. Clearly this incident was not a form of Offensive Jihad but an defensive act. That act was to announce the world that we are under constant oppression of Western forces: the cultural imperialism implied by the "free" market and international banks, and denial of our freedom to worship God as the Prophet taught us over a millenium ago and our right to the land we inhabit.

Let the words of the great Moslem devotee Osama bin Mohammed bin Ladin mark my words:

"The Americans impose themselves on everyone who believes in his religion and his rights. They accuse our children in Palestine of being terrorists. Those children that have no weapons and have not even reached maturity. At the same time they defend a country with its airplanes and tanks, and the state of the Jews, that has a policy to destroy the future of these children."

You Americans know how to explain freedom as a grammatically arranged list of words, translitering for a definate moment of individual pursuit for happiness and commerce. As such, is there anything else to your lives? Like freedom.. to worship God? But how can there ever be freedom to pursuit God if you keep pursuiting material substances and indulgence? Happiness is in God, not in tangential objects and meritless self-indulgence.

Frankly, your modern lifestyle disgusts me -- you have sarcificed nearly all of the noble features of the generation of the Founding Fathers in order to achieve - what? In a life as a busy little bee trying to get her share of honey it must be a kingdom come to have power to choose with your wallet, but who has laid the selected range of options in front of you? Did you not limitations to guarantee "freedom"? More importantly, who are the ones to finally pay to cost for your fallen souls? The planet on the brink of an environmental disaster? The culture and art being overrun by business and commerce? Native peoples losing their ethnicity in exchange for "easy living"? Your children ruining their lives in apathy and suiciding?

Indeed, the freedom will not come without a high price.

I wish you all much of tolerance and wisdom to choose correctly.

Happy September the 11th to you all. -- God bless.

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mods, don't delete this.

People need to see what religious fanatics are all about. Know thy enemy.

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

When I first saw the title I was going to ask that this thread be deleted but I agree with Tedminator that we need to see the true face of fundamental islam. This thread shows the entire world that fundamental islam is evil and all who espose it fundamental beliefs are evil.

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"the blame falls primarily on the parents of the girl?" -Bill O'Reilly about Spears

If there are any true believers of islam out there this is your time to come forward and dispute what the originator puke has written in your name and the name of islam. If there are any muslims out there who want the world to beleive that you are civilized then come forward and dispute the puke who originated this thread.

If no one comes foward to dispute this puke then the world will know that all of you are pukes and that you entire religion and muslim culture is based on puke and not truth.

The origanal puke who started this thread will stand as the true example of your religion and you culture. Is that what you want?

The future and your honor is is your own hands .

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"the blame falls primarily on the parents of the girl?" -Bill O'Reilly about Spears

Vazul,

You are a coward that hides behind a religion that you have perverted.
We should meet in person to discuss this further.

Will you agree to meet with me or are you not man enough for that?

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"When I'm in command, every mission is a suicide mission!" -Capt. Zapp Branigan
The United Church of the Latter Day Tangential Tarts

Ted wrote My prediction is that Vazul is not a man in fact he is not even as worthy as a male pig.

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"the blame falls primarily on the parents of the girl?" -Bill O'Reilly about Spears

It's also possible that this is an American poster trolling in the worst way. Either way, this is the high price we pay for the forum's free speech. It's just plain sad. I don't want the post deleted, though. I have to look on this poster, if he believes his own garbage, the way the ACLU looked at the the KKK. It's tempting to crack down on a few people on the hateful fringes, but once we do, we go down a slippery slope worse than the worst of hate speech.

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"I am a Tory Anarchist. I should like every one to go about doing just as he pleased- short of altering any of the things to which I have grown accustomed." (Max Beerbohm)

Organized religion is the singlemost horrible creation mankind ever conceived. Don't all you fanatics, of every belief, realize you will never find peace and tranquility by attempting to destroy everything and anything that contradicts your belief system? Why do we all, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc, waste away our short time here pointing the finger of shame at each other and killing off the nonbelievers when we could be using this time to enjoy life as best we can?

Peace and tranquiltiy will never come through violence and suffering. That's too easy. Nothing good ever comes easily. The road to peace is difficult. It comes from universal compassion. It comes from understanding that to live is to suffer and all people suffer the same together, then realizing that this suffering can be overcome not by compounding the suffering of mankind through violence, but through the understanding that we all suffer equally. Is materialism disgusting, as bin laden suggests? Absolutely, but the solution is not to hate those who embrace it but to pity them and try to show them by example the better way to live. Only then will it ever be possible to break the cycle of suffering, not by warfare and destruction.

Ignore your egotistical religious leaders who rally you to commit violence in the name of some god neither you nor they can prove truly exists. They are not concerned with your well-being. They have been consumed and corrupted by power.

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LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!

Why would you use one man's rant to vilify all believers and condemn all religion? Disgusting.

I am not gonna delete this topic as long as y'all want to keep it. Y'all are right. Let's see the hatred for what it is. Some of us may even learn a thing or two - like not making out one man to be a spokesman for his entire religion. F100 is right to ask for a Muslim to come forward and denounce this man.

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Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with an iron boot? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. It's a dumb question... skip it.

I'm a Christian and I'm not offended by Joker's post. He has a valid point about unquestioning obedience of religious leaders. That is one of the reasons I don't go to any church despite my strong Christian beliefs.

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