http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14767199/

The other threads missed this crucial point and this Cheney quote that says it all "

They finally admitted what many of us have been saying the Neocon-artists wanted to invade regardless of the truth.

Now read this yup we said that also and we are called un-patiotic for telling the truth.

Unlike his boss the little w Cheney admits one mistake Many of us have said that our military did a brilliant job in the invasion but that the after invasion plans where never made or were not made correctly.

What did we get from the Rummy "stuff happens".

Bottom line again who cares what the intell says we were going in anyways.

That is paramount to treason !!!!!!!!!!

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So what? John Kerry said he would have voted the same way even if he knew there were no WMDs. Was that treason too?

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I don't really care about flip flopper John Kerry. Regardless, you really ought to provide a link if that's the case.

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

I hear the giant sucking sound of Kool-Aid through your straw.

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

There is a difference between authorizing force and wanting to go to war. If I was a senator I would have authorized force while being against the war since Iraq was brought up. Before the Vietnam war a president didn't need authorization to go to war. I think it is a presidents constitutional power to go to war without the approval of congress. If a president doesn't have the authority to invade without approval, they have no legitimacy if they make threats to invade. Partly due to congress authorizing force, Iraq bowed down and let inspectors in. Once they let the inspectors in, we should have listened to their results and backed down.

mack said Exactly; There is a difference between authorizing force and wanting to go to war. As I pointed out in another post a policeman is authorized to take a life but only under the proper conditions.

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Who else does he intend to attack, in our name, regardless of what our intelligence agencies say they are (or are not) doing?

This pre-emption is being taken a bit too far - get them, not just before they attack us, but before we even have any intelligence that suggest that they are aware of our existence! Sounds like Llap Goch to me...
http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/8456/Llapgoch.htm

I remember when nutters like this were laughed out of the room, now you are bowing and scraping at their knees at each increasingly ludicrous proposition. They must weep with laughter.

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Had Saddam cooperated with inspectors, Bush could not have invaded. Regardless of whether or not Cheney wanted to invade. Bush is a President, not a King. Congress could have stopped him in any number of ways. By refusing to do so, they gave their consent (and our consent by proxy).

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