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Old 09-20-2006, 04:14 AM
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The pope said he was "deeply sorry" for the outrage triggered by a speech he gave at a Germany university and stressed that the passages he quoted did not express his personal opinion.
this is all well known so no link needed, now can someone tell me what this thing mean? this thing when someone speaks, but what he speaks does not reflect what they believe? what is this called?

ya, you know it...
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It's called quoting another. He quoted a former Byzantine emperor I believe.
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The pope said he was "deeply sorry" for the outrage triggered by a speech he gave at a Germany university and stressed that the passages he quoted did not express his personal opinion.
this is all well known so no link needed, now can someone tell me what this thing mean? this thing when someone speaks, but what he speaks does not reflect what they believe? what is this called?

ya, you know it...
^^see I can quote you but I hardly ever agree with what you say.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:56 AM
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then give me full context of speeches by Hitler, poop beenadick as well as Ahmadinejad, so we can compare who is preaching hatered and violence and who is not....
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The pope said he was "deeply sorry" for the outrage triggered by a speech he gave at a Germany university and stressed that the passages he quoted did not express his personal opinion.
this is all well known so no link needed, now can someone tell me what this thing mean? this thing when someone speaks, but what he speaks does not reflect what they believe? what is this called?

ya, you know it...
Uhh......you ever sat in on a lecture at a college campus? The best professors I ever had, you never could tell where they personally stood on an issue, because they argue each side with great passion and with plenty of facts. The Pope was quoting someone from history------someone who happened to be right, IMHO. But I'll tell ya: it's a sad day when we get the point where we cannot debate and discuss history, facts and events without fear of death. Sad day, indeed.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:04 AM
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Uhh......you ever sat in on a lecture at a college campus? The best professors I ever had, you never could tell where they personally stood on an issue, because they argue each side with great passion and with plenty of facts. The Pope was quoting someone from history------someone who happened to be right, IMHO. But I'll tell ya: it's a sad day when we get the point where we cannot debate and discuss history, facts and events without fear of death. Sad day, indeed.
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then give me full context of speech
i think it wa not as you suggesting it, besides being a catholic pope, he sould first look into killings done by christo/catholics, you have any teachings quotes by him of those? because if you do not, it further proves that no, it was not just a quote...

muslims are experiencing no less a holocaust then jews at the moment, IMPOSED BY CHRISTIANS their countries being destroyed under pretext of all different kinds, and when poope further tries to put blame on Islam itself, im sure it hurts.
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Either

(a) Muhammad is from God

or

(b) Muhammad isn't from God


I think it is already abundantly clear which option the Pope believes. Why does it suprise you what he says about Muhammad, Buddha, Zoroaster, Krishna, etc.? Was Moses Mr. Happy-Nice-Guy let's all get along when he came down from Mt. Sinai? Was Jesus Mr. Happy-Nice-Guy let's all get along when he fashioned a whip and beat the money-changers out of the temple? Why should the Pope not stand up for what he believes?
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Why should the Pope not stand up for what he believes?
IMO because it is extremely hypocritical to claim(in a wise a$$ way or not) that Islam is religion causing violence, when in fact it is catho/judeo/christians that are invading their lands under pretexts of all different kinds: to help a good dictator, to bring democracy, to help the people, to find WMDs, etc...
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