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Old 10-13-2006, 01:54 PM
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But unless we start to have Referendum on every topic that causes public debate - which I do not want.
What possible objections could you have towards regular referendums, aside from possible overuse?

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(Although I may go for compulsary voting)
I love that concept. Forcing people to take advantage of their rights. I thought you were British...

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Then the State must take those decisions in our name wether we agree with it or not!
The State is a tool of the people, it can only justifiably do what the people want it to do. The job of the State is not to do as it pleases, it is to do what the people want. When it does as it pleases, the results aren't great (oppression, democide ect. All that lovely stuff).

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If you don't like it - then vote the buggers out next time round ...
And what if the State, in all it's glorious wisdom, decides to remove our right to vote? Or forces us to vote for the ruling party?





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What possible objections could you have towards regular referendums, aside from possible overuse?
Well done you understand.

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I love that concept. Forcing people to take advantage of their rights. I thought you were British...
Please be clearer "Forcing people to take advantage of their rights"? I do not understand you



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The job of the State is not to do as it pleases, it is to do what the people want.
It is the "job" of the elected Government to make State like decisions - that is why it was elected. If you don't like your Government then vote them out of power.

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And what if the State, in all it's glorious wisdom, decides to remove our right to vote? Or forces us to vote for the ruling party?
Anarchist ramblings .....
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Old 10-14-2006, 09:36 AM
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Well done you understand.
So the only reason you oppose referedums, is bececause of possible overuse?

I assume you also oppose food consumption?

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Please be clearer "Forcing people to take advantage of their rights"? I do not understand you
Voting is a right, compulsory voting forces people to vote.

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It is the "job" of the elected Government to make State like decisions - that is why it was elected. If you don't like your Government then vote them out of power.
I only get the oppertunity to do that every four/five years. That is plenty of time for the State to make bad decisions.

And just what exactly are 'State like decisions'?

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Anarchist ramblings .....
Really, if that is all you had you shouldn't have bothered.

The State always attempts to get more power. Did you not pay attention in History?
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So the only reason you oppose referedums, is bececause of possible overuse?

I assume you also oppose food consumption?
"referedums"? never heard of one - I do oppose the overuse of Referendums.

No I love food consumption - I was gathering grapes from my greenhouse and apples from my orchard earlier today and I intend with my friends to eat the lot, they will go nicely with my dry cured ham that has been hanging in my porch for nearly a year now. yum yum .....

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Voting is a right, compulsory voting forces people to vote.
Stateing the obvious there!!!

I originally said "(Although I may go for compulsary voting)" so I may go for eating chips, I may go to Iceland - I am open to debate on this issue -maybe!!



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I only get the oppertunity to do that every four/five years. That is plenty of time for the State to make bad decisions.
That is the voting system we have in place - we do not hold referendums on every major issue - we vote the Government , they make the decisions and we either agree or compalain and protest, until the next election. I do not wish to have referendums on every issue that creates public debate.

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And just what exactly are 'State like decisions'?
Going to war in Iraq is an example of a state-like decision.


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Old 10-17-2006, 06:15 AM
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"referedums"? never heard of one - I do oppose the overuse of Referendums.
Just overuse, or referendums in general?

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Stateing the obvious there!!!
'Stateing' the obvious? Never heard of that saying...

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I originally said "(Although I may go for compulsary voting)" so I may go for eating chips, I may go to Iceland - I am open to debate on this issue -maybe!!
I wasn't commenting on your view of compulsory voting, I was commenting on the concept of compulsory voting.

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That is the voting system we have in place - we do not hold referendums on every major issue - we vote the Government , they make the decisions and we either agree or compalain and protest, until the next election.
I am fully aware of that. Why did you feel the need to describe our system of governance to me?

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I do not wish to have referendums on every issue that creates public debate.
Neither do I. That is what voter initiatives are for.

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Going to war in Iraq is an example of a state-like decision.
I see, 'State-like decisions' are incredibly misguided (some may say stupid) decisions that result in the death of thousands. I had a feeling that may be the case.

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I guess I better start paying attention then. Wouldn't want to end up like you... <--This indicates that I am joking...
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I am fully aware of that. Why did you feel the need to describe our system of governance to me?
I thought as you are an Anarchist, I would just let you know what you were missing!

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I thought as you are an Anarchist, I would just let you know what you were missing!
Since I live under that system of governance, and (mostly) abide by it's rules, I am not missing it. Not that there is anything much about it to miss...

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Such considered explanations are not necessary for me, as I understand the meaning, and purpose, of emoticons. Thanks anyway.
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