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Old 10-24-2006, 07:48 PM
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A major effort to draw Latinos and blacks into the Republican Party, a central element of the GOP plan to build a long-lasting majority, is in danger of collapse amid anger over the immigration debate and claims that Republican leaders have not delivered on promises to direct more money to church-based social services.

President Bush, strategist Karl Rove and other top Republicans have wooed Latino and black leaders, many of them evangelical clergy who lead large congregations, in hopes of peeling away the traditional Democratic base. But now some of the leaders who helped Bush win in 2004 are revisiting their loyalty to the Republican Party and, in some cases, abandoning it.
This has been a major and, I believe, sincere push by Ken Mehlman at the RNC, with some help from the White House. But he's been frustrated by members of his own party, particularly by the border-fence bill.
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That seems strange.....considering Democrats claim to be for securing the borders too. So why is it the blacks and latinos would hold that against only Republicans? And why are blacks even in that catergory....as they have nothing to do with illegal immigration. In fact, I've heard many of them on tv who seem to want the borders secured as well. Puzzling.

And while Pres. Bush may not have been able to put all the money into his Faith-based initiative that he planned to (9/11, Katrina, Rita, and the war on terrorism came along), it's been pretty successful. And at least it's now legal for faith-based organizations to compete for the funds. Thanks to Pres. Bush.
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That seems strange.....considering Democrats claim to be for securing the borders too. So why is it the blacks and latinos would hold that against only Republicans? And why are blacks even in that catergory....as they have nothing to do with illegal immigration. In fact, I've heard many of them on tv who seem to want the borders secured as well. Puzzling.
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What black people did you see on TV? Is that where you get your info from? How many black people have you talked too on the subject matter?

And while Pres. Bush may not have been able to put all the money into his Faith-based initiative that he planned to (9/11, Katrina, Rita, and the war on terrorism came along),

Actually most of the money has been on the war in Iraq, probably could have used that half-billion that was lost or stolen.

it's been pretty successful.

And you know that how?

And at least it's now legal for faith-based organizations to compete for the funds. Thanks to Pres. Bush.


Give us a breakdown which organizations are actually getting the funds.

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In fact, I've heard many of them on tv who seem to want the borders secured as well. :Confuse: Puzzling.
What black people did you see on TV? Is that where you get your info from? How many black people have you talked too on the subject matter?
Of course, you're right, brutha. Why would blacks want to secure the border? JP5 shouldn't make an assumption like that.
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In fact, I've heard many of them on tv who seem to want the borders secured as well. :Confuse: Puzzling.
What black people did you see on TV? Is that where you get your info from? How many black people have you talked too on the subject matter?
Of course, you're right, brutha. Why would blacks want to secure the border?

I don't know why do you want to secure the border? I never said black people didn't want to secure the border did I?

JP5 shouldn't make an assumption like that.



Well you know what happens when you ASS U ME. I was just trying to find who the many of them it was, if thats ok with you. You know there is nothing like getting it from the horse's mouth, oh excuse me black man's mouth. LOL.

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That seems strange.....considering Democrats claim to be for securing the borders too. So why is it the blacks and latinos would hold that against only Republicans?
The reason is that republicans and their consitutient have been more vocal and to a certain degree more extreme about border control than the democrats.

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And why are blacks even in that catergory....as they have nothing to do with illegal immigration. In fact, I've heard many of them on tv who seem to want the borders secured as well. Puzzling.
I think black America has blamed Bush for cutting afterschool funding, the fact he was the first presidentical candidate to shun out BET, and most of all Bush's ineptituted of how he handled the Katerina

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And while Pres. Bush may not have been able to put all the money into his Faith-based initiative that he planned to (9/11, Katrina, Rita, and the war on terrorism came along), it's been pretty successful. And at least it's now legal for faith-based organizations to compete for the funds. Thanks to Pres. Bush.
President Bush has some good idea about faith-based funding and the No Child Left behind act but due to the war on Iraq most of those programs have been shut down. I'm guessing many of the ppl. who benefited from those programs are angry that it was shut down b/c of the unpopular war in Iraq
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