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Old 11-12-2006, 12:09 PM
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Default I am now an Independent Democrat, capital I, capital D.

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Sen Joe to serve the way he was elected!! an Independent Democrat
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but I’m going to be an independent because that is how and why I returned to the Senate. I was elected as an independent, I was elected, I believe, because I said to my constituents in Connecticut, “I’m, I’m as fed up with the partisanship in Washington as you are. I promise you I will put progress and, and patriotism ahead of partisanship and polarization.” So I’m going to—I am now an Independent Democrat, capital I, capital D. Matter of fact, the secretary of the Senate called my office and asked, “How do you want to be identified” and, and that’s it. Independent Democrat.
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SEN. LIEBERMAN: Yeah, we checked with history and actually in the late ‘70s Senator Harry Byrd of Virginia listed himself as an Independent Democrat. You got to go back to the mid-19th century to find the last Independent Democrat.
OK so all of you ( JP, fIFE, duh) who want to tie the Demoncrats to the KKK will say that Sen Joe and Sen Byrdman are related with the KKK just because both serevd at one time as Independent Democrats. Of course all of you will be wrong as usual but you will say it.
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:57 PM
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U.S. government is a two party system. Although Joe Lieberman may consider himself an independent or independent/democrat, he has no other choice but to either caucus with the dems or caucus with the repubs. What I'm trying to say is; "Independent" is a title only. Lieberman would commit political suicide if he chose to caucus with the republicans. The majority of his base would totally abandon him.
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Lieberman would commit political suicide if he chose to caucus with the republicans. The majority of his base would totally abandon him.
the democratic base unelected his dino butt in the primary.
the republican base abandoned its candidate to perpetuate joementum.
LIEberman is an opportunist, taking the middle road, in hopes of receiving key committee assignments from the demos while remaining dubya's lackey.
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Yep Liebermann is no where near stupid enough to not take advantage of his now independent status.
He may say he's a Democrat but the Democrats are going to have to "buy" his votes not just assume them.

They can forget about him supporting them on any run away and lie "plan" for defeat in Iraq.

..and uh I don't tie the Democrats to the KKK. I do though tie Byrd to the KKK. Grand Wizards aren't just the guy that showed up to a rally.
..and I do rub it in the faces of Democrats who scream Racism anytime they can..but then like Byrd said most of them are just "white (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s"..and he said that in the 21st Century
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He may say he's a Democrat but the Democrats are going to have to "buy" his votes not just assume them.
I really don't know what you mean by "buy."

The fact that Lieberman chose to caucus with the Democratic Party is a win; The power is now in the hands of Democrats. It was a win for Lieberman and a win for the Democratic Party.

Face it, Lieberman used the republicans and they used him. Republicans choice: Lieberman or Lamont, that was an easy choice for repubs. Lieberman will continue to try to make "independent" decisions; this is nothing new for Lieberman, he's always leaned more conservative than most Dems. Lieberman hasn't changed, only his title.

Also, its beneficial for Lieberman to caucus with Dems, he'll be able to retain his seniority status and he'll continue to chair committees. Besides, his constituents would most likely prefer him to caucus with the Dems.

Bottom Line; Win, Win for Dems.
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LIEberman is an opportunist, taking the middle road, in hopes of receiving key committee assignments from the demos while remaining dubya's lackey.
Actually, there's nothing illegal or unethical in what Lieberman did. I would agree that he's an opportunist, but what politician isn't? IMO, it's all good for Dems. At the end of the day, Lieberman chose to benefit himself as far as power and his constituents go and in doing so, he also helped the dems; intentionally or unintentionally.

So the people of Connecticut got what they wanted and the Dems got what they wanted.
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Default Joe 's moderate position is not "opportunist".

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I have known Joe as a memember of PACS and various Veteran's groups and as a volunteer campaign worker and I habve to say that Joe 's moderate position is not "opportunist". Joe first ran and knocked off Sen Wiecker Wacker and Joe ran as a Democrat but to the right of Wacker!!!!! Joe obviosly won.
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..and uh I don't tie the Democrats to the KKK. I do though tie Byrd to the KKK. Grand Wizards aren't just the guy that showed up to a rally.
maybe I attributed something to you which belongs only to JP and Deputy, sorry!!!
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Sen Joe to serve the way he was elected!! an Independent Democrat
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but I’m going to be an independent because that is how and why I returned to the Senate. I was elected as an independent, I was elected, I believe, because I said to my constituents in Connecticut, “I’m, I’m as fed up with the partisanship in Washington as you are. I promise you I will put progress and, and patriotism ahead of partisanship and polarization.” So I’m going to—I am now an Independent Democrat, capital I, capital D. Matter of fact, the secretary of the Senate called my office and asked, “How do you want to be identified” and, and that’s it. Independent Democrat.
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SEN. LIEBERMAN: Yeah, we checked with history and actually in the late ‘70s Senator Harry Byrd of Virginia listed himself as an Independent Democrat. You got to go back to the mid-19th century to find the last Independent Democrat.
OK so all of you ( JP, fIFE, duh) who want to tie the Demoncrats to the KKK will say that Sen Joe and Sen Byrdman are related with the KKK just because both serevd at one time as Independent Democrats. Of course all of you will be wrong as usual but you will say it.
Is Harry Byrd of Virginia the same as Robert Byrd of West Virginia?
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Default since HARRY BYRD of VA is a bird of a diferent feather

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Is Harry Byrd of Virginia the same as Robert Byrd of West Virginia?
You ask a good question and I am not correct on this projection since HARRY BYRD of VA is a bird of a diferent feather. Robert Byrd of West Virginia is the FORMER KKK operative. I do not believe that HARRY was KKK.

My mistake. Sorry!!! There will be another time
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