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Old 11-12-2006, 08:24 PM
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The victims of racism?
..your not a victim superbafdbrutha your a user of others victimization. Whether that be in general or within your own families history...I don't care which.

You see the color of a persons skin first then you trouble yourself with the whys and what.
You keep racism alive and proabably wouldn't know what to do with yourself if you didn't have it to rely on.

Go ahead call me a racist..you call everyone a racist as it is
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:24 AM
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..your not a victim superbafdbrutha your a user of others victimization. Whether that be in general or within your own families history...I don't care which.
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Shows how little you know about what you think you know. I grew up at the end of segregation in a small town in NC, so I am not telling you what somebody told me I am telling you what I know.

You see the color of a persons skin first then you trouble yourself with the whys and what.

Wrong again, I judge a person by their actions. See you can't see wrong and then make excuses for it not matter what color you are.

You keep racism alive and proabably wouldn't know what to do with yourself if you didn't have it to rely on.

How ignorant can you be. Please enlighten me how I keep racism going? Now tell me how it is racist for me to believe that ALL the men that died in WWII should be honored on the same plaque and not be seperated by color, if you are for that it sounds too me like you are the one that needs to check yourself.

Go ahead call me a racist..you call everyone a racist as it is


Now correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you are the one that has been trying to label me as the racist. Get your (*)(*)(*)(*) correct partner.

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Old 11-13-2006, 04:37 AM
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That is stupid.


Here you go-

"yes, i see your point after recognizing all of those white faces playing NBA basketball on tv last week ... my bad, that was the NBA. nevermind"

Idiotic..yes.

Why?,..becasue the NBA like the Country Music Awards is not based on RACE it is based on performance.

If a white can play basketball well enough to deserve the recognition that entails then he wil get it(LARRY BIRD).
If a black can play Country Music well enough to deserve recognition for it then he wil get it(MIKE JOHNSON)


Color first...... merit second.
When I hear people like you try to make excuses for racism. You act as if racism is something that black people just made up and it never really happened or happens. Got a newsflash for you champ there are still plenty of black people alive today that dealt with the cruelty of Jim Crow Laws and segregation first hand, as well as, people that deal with it today.

Nobody is saying people should not be based on their merit, but if you believe that color is not a factor in society today, then you definitely have your head stuck in the sand or maybe not.

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Old 11-13-2006, 09:25 AM
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Well I feel that the whole b.e.t thing and black colleges really get to some of you. I don't understand how you got started on it but I am going to say this. WEN exist every time you turn on the television. From CNN to Fox news. CMT as well as other outlet the promote white. Nothing is wrong with it. If you want a WET get one, be being a black man doesn't bother or get next to me. The truth is i thin it already exist just like tons of other African Americans. But if you want to Title it do so. Nobody on my side cares if you have a network or Miss White America or all white colleges. Truth is whites attend black colleges so what on a minority scholarship So what?

I see that all to often with white people. i do not support B.E.T because it doesn't support black people Struggling up and coming or successful. It only support the successful black people. It's an alternative just like black news media that I support because it discuss the problems and give information that no one else want to give. Without it you can easily argue that Blacks are criminal and never victims. Let Foxnes tell it because they only show the bad in black and not the good. So what??? yeah them mentality of segregation still exist because color boundaries still exist. The only whites I know that black run thing insult them are the ones that racist. So what blacks have there own media outlet

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Old 11-13-2006, 09:36 AM
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The people lobbying to have this historic plaque removed are the same people lobbying to ban Huckleberry Finn from school libraries and curriculum. Their zealousness clouds and overrules their thinking.

Segregation is a historic fact and actually seeing it, through the lens of this 1945 plaque, reminds us of its existence in a past age. I also recall seeing a "Colored" water fountain sign in 1960 downtown Houston. I was only 6 years old, and remember feeling confused and asking my dad about the sign. My dad felt embarrassed by the sign.

Today, children seeing this 1945 plaque have the opportunity of asking their parents about it, and parents now have the opportunity of explaining what segregation was all about through a real and tangible means. It would be a great mistake removing this historic plaque.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:55 AM
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Off the top of my head, I can name at least a half dozen organizations that cater to women. And two that I can think of are conservative in nature: Concerned Women for America and the Society of Women Engineers. These groups don't focus so much on race, but they do focus on gender. Are they segregationists? Maybe in JP5's world they are. But to most of us, these are just groups, where people who share some physical trait (ovaries), get together to share ideas and concepts.

I don't think there ever will be a truly color/gender blind society (in the U.S.), and I'm not so certain that should even be a goal. But I do think it should be a goal for people to be able to freely associate with those that they like, or with whom they share similar values and ideals, no matter their race, religion or gender.

Have you all met my friends? Here's Saul... he's my Jewish friend. And Mandy, she's my Catholic female friend. She's married to Raul, my Mexican friend. Dan is my Black friend. And William, well, he's my gay friend.

I've known people who thought in those terms, though not so obviously. And they were very sad people indeed. Unless you belong to a group that promotes hate or exclusive beliefs, why does it matter if those of like culture occasionally do their thing as a group?

But going back to this idiotic plaque... put it in a museum where it belongs.

People tend to make simple things harder than they need to be. Give me a screwdriver and I'll show you just how simple it is. Good grief!
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Segregation is a historic fact and actually seeing it, through the lens of this 1945 plaque, reminds us of its existence in a past age. I also recall seeing a "Colored" water fountain sign in 1960 downtown Houston. I was only 6 years old, and remember feeling confused and asking my dad about the sign. My dad felt embarrassed by the sign.
Uncle, grandfather.... some relative that you mentioned being in some branch of the KKK. The one who joined while in the Dallas PD.

So your dad was embarrassed by the sign? OK. How did he feel about this family relation who was in the Klan? I bet he sure could have explained that sign in a Mississippi minute.

I'm not aware that anyone wants to destroy the sign. But ya see, that's what museums are for: a place for historical items, kept in the intended context.
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after recognizing all of those black faces receiving awards at the country music association awards presentation shown on tv last week ... my bad, that was the caucasian music award ceremony. nevermind
Since your comparison is a poor one. The reason you saw few black faces is because generally speaking blacks have a lesser interest in country music. Not because they are excluded. FYI, there are such thing as black country stars. Charlie Pride got awards at a time when things were less color blind. It's the country music awards, not the Caucasian Awards. There is a significant difference between JP's example and yours.
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after recognizing all of those black faces receiving awards at the country music association awards presentation shown on tv last week ... my bad, that was the caucasian music award ceremony. nevermind
Ever hear the name Charley Pride? Look it up.

Besides, it's not named "White Awards Show" and it IS inclusive. Black artists are welcome to participate in Country mustic. It's not the fault of the country music industry that blacks don't particularly like it and gravitate towards rock, R&B or rap rather than country music. However, it's not even possible that at the Black Awards show for any award to go to any whites, right???

So, you still believe in promoting segregation, eh?
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Ever hear the name Charley Pride? Look it up.

Is he still alive? How many CMAs has he won?

Besides, it's not named "White Awards Show" and it IS inclusive.

It doesn't have to be, it is what it is.

Black artists are welcome to participate in Country mustic. It's not the fault of the country music industry that blacks don't particularly like it and gravitate towards rock, R&B or rap rather than country music.

However, it's not even possible that at the Black Awards show for any award to go to any whites, right???

Tell that to Eminem, oh wait that means he would have to give his BA back.

So, you still believe in promoting segregation, eh?


I don't think he is promoting segregation probably recognition. See until the young white generation caught on with Hip Hop you didn't see too many black artist at the AMA show walking across the stage to accept their awards. It is kind of like the Miss Beauty pagenant used too be. So for black artist to receive any recognition the BET Music Awards was created. See back in the day the only black artist that ever got a music award was Michael Jackson and hell we can't even claim him anymore.

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