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Old 11-12-2006, 12:37 PM
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Default Georgia display divides veterans’ names by race

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In the lobby of the Taylor County courthouse they have a of 800 local WW II veterans into two lists, marked in large type: “Whites” and “Colored.”
Some 'activists" want the sign taken down. They have added an “integrated” list since but still left the white/colored lists and say that it is for "historical" purposes.

Sybil Willingham, chairwoman of the county’s Historic Preservation Commission says “If we erase everything we find offensive or don’t like, then it may happen again,” . Sybil also said "unlawful for people to “mutilate, deface, defile, or abuse” public monuments honoring servicemembers.

"activists" want the segragated list moved to a museum.

What do you guys thimk ? I think that segragated lists though historic actually mutilate, deface, defile, or abuse” public monuments honoring servicemembers unless such lists are in museums or areas designated as historic.
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the segregated list does not belong in a public facility (other than an archive to serve as a reminder of what once was - we cannot erase that and should know the negative as well as the positive aspects of our history)

do the "good folks" of georgia also believe that "whites only" signs should still be attached to our water fountains, even tho that segregation is no longer lawful?
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Now how does it change history if all the names are on one plaque?

Did Germans distinguish between the two groups on the battlefield or did they kill both equally?

It is a good example for some of those on these boards that claim we live in a colorblind society.

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Its from 1944....... In 1944 we didn't have a colorblind society..we had an honest one.

I know why don't they replace it with a memorial to BLACK soldiers of WWII-you'd have no problem with that.Unlike a memorial to WHITE soldiers of WWII which you'd instantly condemn as racist.

No we don't live in a colorblind society mainly because of people like you who see everything in term of the color of a persons skin.

The KKK/Neo-Nazis/Black Panthers etc they're just dip(*)(*)(*)(*)s with lil merit..you on the otherhand represent the racist mentality that has effect and until your type is rejected you'll always be able to cry racism becasue you generate it.
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Default Yes in 1944 society's attitude was hinest honestly wrong

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That sign being from 1944 should be in a museum. Yes in 1944 we did not have a colorblind society and it was honest, honestly wrong.
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Old 11-12-2006, 02:28 PM
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Default I guess some still do believe that!!!!

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do the "good folks" of georgia also believe that "whites only" signs should still be attached to our water fountains, even tho that segregation is no longer lawful?
I guess some still do believe that!!!!

I saw my first Colored Only sign in Gulfport Mississippi in 1966 and even though I heard about them and saw pictures seeing that sign for real had a significant impact on me. I said in the past that even though I am from the North I went to a virtually Black free high school and we had our own form of racism yet this was institutional.
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I think it’s a good opportunity to give reparations for black Americans. Every non-black American living today is responsible for the slavery that was forced on the black population in the past. Not to mention, they’re unbelievably oppressed in modern day society.

Keep the separate plaques, but remake the Black’s list to be two times as big as the White’s list.

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Default ignore or segragate is wrong/wrong attitude

Duh contends [quote][I know why don't they replace it with a memorial to BLACK soldiers of WWII-you'd have no problem with that.Unlike a memorial to WHITE soldiers of WWII which you'd instantly condemn as racist.
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What many people do not understand is that the recognition of Blacks' contribution in WW II ( and WWI) was basically ignored or as in the case of the Confederate Republic of Georgia recognized separately. I guess in a perverse sense you can claim that being recognized separately is better than not at all.

This wrong/wrong attitude of ignore or segregate is what makes some people want to make memoria;ls to Black servicemen of WW II.
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Default Ignoring of Black contribution in WW II

I who am very aware of history and of avaiation history never knew about the Tuskeegee Airmen until the very late seventies of maybe even the eighties.

Why was that ? Answer there wasn't much written about them until Black history awareness became popular. Now I am not saying that all Black history awareness is valid but the basics are correct. I must be honest and talk about the excesses such as Black's trying to claim Egyption history and achievement as Black achievements. So there is the good and the bad, the true and the bull.
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What many people do not understand is that the recognition of Blacks' contribution in WW II ( and WWI) was basically ignored or as in the case of the Confederate Republic of Georgia recognized separately. I guess in a perverse sense you can claim that being recognized separately is better than not at all.
Its sad that some people can look in history books and see: "The Americans did this, the Americans did that, etc"...and imagine nothing but White people.

Unless there are sections containing: "The White Americans stormed this town, while the Black Americans cooked food for the Whites doing the fighting." I have no idea what you're talking about. Separating plaques does show Georgia felt they were different types of people....but I honestly don't follow:

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What many people do not understand is that the recognition of Blacks' contribution in WW II ( and WWI) was basically ignored
All the history I've read, heard, and watched has been describing all American soliders regardless of color. I guess its something that comes natural to "skin colorblind" eyes. I pity those who see it different.
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