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Subject::Tony Blair
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> Thought for the day:
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> In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American
> sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister
> Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his
> Parliament members why he believes so much in America, he said:
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> "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want
> in... And how many want out." Only two defining forces have ever
> offered to die for you:

Jesus Christ and the American G.I.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:37 AM
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That is why he is Tony B. Liar

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Old 11-14-2006, 06:32 AM
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> The Poodle: "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want
> in... And how many want out."
This too, too simple way of measuring a country is emblematic of Bush the Lame's poodle. The people who want in do so because they think they can generate more personal income for themselves. The poor will always want to get in. The reason many Americans want to get in to Canada is because they are too poor to afford the USA-style health care.
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Jesus Christ and the American G.I.
1. Jesus never offered to die for anyone. This is a myth generated by some of his early, grief-stricken followers.
2. Plenty of soldiers have died for those who were not their fellow citizens. Blair needs only to look to England's own history for proof.

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If either presumed to claim that they were dying for me, then they were sadly astray.

I do my own 'dying'.
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Jesus never offered to die for anyone.

"I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep" - Jesus

"Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you" - Jesus

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said." - Jesus
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That's why I love that Tony Blair. Even if he is a liberal!!

And he's right: the world would be a very different place but for the American G.I.
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That's why I love that Tony Blair. Even if he is a liberal!!

And he's right: the world would be a very different place but for the American G.I.
Im not sure, JP5, if Tony Blair made that comment about Jesus and the GIs. It appears - from Bombeni's original post - that the quotation marks are closed, then Bombeni proceeds to offer a concluding 'thought' for the day.

Maybe I am reading it wrong, but that seems to be the substance of it - any clarification, Bombeni?
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That's why I love that Tony Blair. Even if he is a liberal!!

And he's right: the world would be a very different place but for the American G.I.
Im not sure, JP5, if Tony Blair made that comment about Jesus and the GIs. It appears - from Bombeni's original post - that the quotation marks are closed, then Bombeni proceeds to offer a concluding 'thought' for the day.

Maybe I am reading it wrong, but that seems to be the substance of it - any clarification, Bombeni?
I agree with your interpretation---and his conclusion. The American GI has fought and died for many reasons, many caused by mistakes of the same Europe which most of us escaped. Mr. Blair's courage under political fire is a tribute to him as a man and as a leader. The U.S. soldier's courage, however, is always under fire. Freedom has a lot of vocal enemies.
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> The Poodle: "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want
> in... And how many want out."
This too, too simple way of measuring a country is emblematic of Bush the Lame's poodle. The people who want in do so because they think they can generate more personal income for themselves. The poor will always want to get in. The reason many Americans want to get in to Canada is because they are too poor to afford the USA-style health care.
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Only two defining forces have ever
> offered to die for you:
Jesus Christ and the American G.I.
1. Jesus never offered to die for anyone. This is a myth generated by some of his early, grief-stricken followers.
2. Plenty of soldiers have died for those who were not their fellow citizens. Blair needs only to look to England's own history for proof.

and people want to come to the US for personal gain is correct. You just left out the reason why they want to come to the US more than any other country which could also offer income growth.
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By the mid-19th century unique had developed a wider meaning, “not typical, unusual,” and it is in this wider sense that it is compared. The comparison of so-called absolutes in senses that are not absolute is standard in all varieties of speech and writing.
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UK Prime Minister Tony Blair said: "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in and how many want out."

Is the full quote, the rest is down to Bombeni and her source.

A lot of people want to come to the UK too! 100,000's of Poles and East Europeans from the EU and others from the Commenwealth!!!

They are very welcome
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