Of course, it should be illegal to get a divorce unless either (a) you have no kids or (b) all your kids are grown. Having kids means God intends for you to suffer for at least two decades (maybe more ).

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BA, History/Political Science, Western State College, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University, 1993

That would suck because in my case I'm glad they got divorced! And I can't say I care that he never came around.

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I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.

Just a little way up the thread, Barn said 80 to 87% of those 40% are born to single moms; Barn got kind of mad at me for asking if the other 13 to 20% of those 40% are born to single dads.

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship/Marketing, City University, 1993

Stekim,

You'll have to go to last week's out of wedlock thread I began and click on the link I originally posted, which cites all the numbers. I did another google news search, but the articles were incomplete. I believe the article I originally posted came from a Seattle paper.

Or, you can save yourself some time and trouble and trust me that I'm not making any of this up. The numbers are accurate. The percentage of babies born out of wedlock with a co-habitant dad range from 13 to 20%, depending on the age of the mom, with older moms being more likely than younger moms of having a co-habitant dad.

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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
Winston Churchill

unless I considered homosexuality a genetic disorder or a disease, which I do not and have argued against. You are comparing scientific research to cure a disease to nature's law of requiring one male and one female to conceive. They are not comparable. Unless, as stated, you view that as some disorder. And I disagree, nature intended for cures for disease. If it didn't then it wouldn't happen on a daily basis. Unlike same sex couples where there is not a single case in history of two people of the same sex bearing children.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

In 100% of the cases a same sex couple requires an outside member of the opposite sex in order to have children. If we had the ability to create children using two women themselves then your argument would hold true. But we do not.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health..._births22.html

Here's the link. I was wrong--younger moms under 20 are more likely (20%) to have a co-habitant dad than older moms age 20 to 24 at 13%

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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
Winston Churchill

Fair enough. You're wrong, of course, but fair enough.

That, however, doesn't make sense.

Well then you obviously must oppose artificial insemination in all instances, since clearly nature did not intend for infertile individuals to reproduce, either.

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Man up.

Goodbye--

Well then you obviously must oppose artificial insemination in all instances, since clearly nature did not intend for infertile individuals to reproduce, either.

Hello.

Sincerely,

Bizzaro World.

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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."
Winston Churchill

My overall point is that man is part of nature as are the cures he produces. If man can do something such as cure a disease then it is as intended. Antiobiotics are naturally occuring, cures for disease are comprised of naturally occuring elements, etc. Procedures such as artificial insemination among opposite sex are natural as well...if it weren't then it wouldn't work. Which is why same sex parenting is unnatural...because unlike cures, insemination, etc it does not work using medicine, man made procedures, etc 100% of the time. Not ever.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.