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Will Christmas Be Crucified Again?
December 09, 2006


By Henry Makow Ph.D.

(This is an update of "Christmas Was Crucified Again" posted Dec. 30, 2005. Makow is taking a Leave to write a horror movie about a Feminist who is haunted by her aborted children. )

"Did you enjoy the Holiday Concert?" the school principal asked my friend.

"Yes, but why didn't you call it a Christmas Concert?'

"Oh I can't. The Superintendent said the concert must be inclusive of all the diverse cultures in the school. We are not allowed to mention Christmas, Christ, or Jesus."

My friend was bewildered. The school is 95% Christian. Yet all the carols with Christian references were performed as instrumentals. Instead they recited "In Flanders Fields," a poem commemorating the dead from World War One!

This humiliating scene was replayed millions of times this Christmas season. Some Christian groups even boycotted retailers who dropped the word Christmas from their advertising. Celebrating the central Christian holiday, and even saying "Merry Christmas" has become a political act.

Why has this happened? The answer isn't pretty. The world financial elite wants to eradicate Christianity. Their forerunners crucified Christ. Christianity gives everyone a piece of the pie and elitists want it all for themselves.

According to Christianity, all human beings were created in God's image, i.e. Divine Truth resides in every soul. Accordingly, human life is sacred and God loves everyone equally.

On the other hand, the New World Order wants to corrupt and debase humanity and snuff out any spark of Divinity. They want to allot us "human rights" (which they determine) instead of acknowledging our God given rights. You see, animals are better to herd and cull.


"DIVERSITY"


In a truly pluralistic society, all major religions would be officially recognized. This is especially true of Christianity, the founding heritage practised by 80% of Americans.

In our society however, some people are in George Orwell's words, "more equal than others." "Diversity" is a devious ploy to subjugate the Christian majority. Christians have to take a back seat to 1.5% of Jews for whom Chanukah is an insignificant holiday that doesn't even fall on December 25 half of the time. (I won't mention "Kwanza" since most Blacks are Christian.)

To degrade humanity, the elite has to dynamite the four pillars of human identity: race, religion, nation and family. Just as it promotes homosexuality and fe-manism to undermine family, it uses a Jewish holiday to destroy Christianity.

The truth is that most Jews and other non-Christians would be happy to make Christmas an official national holiday. Some Jews and Muslims even started groups to promote the authentic celebration of Christmas. No one can object to the spirit of Divine Love and human brotherhood that Christ represents. It is the heart and soul of Christmas.

No one, that is, except the foreign-based central bankers and the occult (i.e. Masonic) political and cultural establishment that they employ.

Masons are behind the spurious division of religion and state. In his book "Unholy Alliances" Dr. James Wardner points out that the Supreme Court had a Masonic majority during the 30-year period 1941-1971 when the court "erected a wall separating the religious from the secular. It was an epoch when prayer and Bible reading were erased from public education..." (P.72)

Paul Fisher (in "Behind the Lodge Door") suggests, "Masons have succeeded in having their religion dominate American society." (P.244)

"Freemasonry historically has been a revolutionary worldwide movement organized to advance Cabbalistic Gnosticism; to undermine and ...destroy Christianity; to infuse Masonic philosophy into key government structures; and to subvert any government which does not comport with Masonic principles." (P.16)

The destruction of Christianity is a main goal of Communism, a spawn of the banking elite through its Masonic arm. Communist/Masonic governments persecuted and murdered Christians in Russia, China, Spain, Mexico, France etc.


THE WIDER ATTACK


The attack on Christmas is part of a wider war on Christianity in the USA.

Incredible as it sounds, a US Navy Chaplain is being fired because he insists on praying "in Jesus' name." He is conducting a hunger strike to persuade President Bush to rectify this situation. Seventy-three Congressmen wrote Oct 25 letter, that while 80% of soldiers are Christians, "it is increasingly difficult for Christian Chaplains to use the name of Jesus when praying." (Washington Times, Dec. 21, 205)

George W. Bush who claims to be a born-again Christian is in fact a member of the Satanic (Masonic) "Skull and Bones." He sent a "Happy Holiday" card from the White House. Nevertheless the House of Representative fought hard to have the Capitol Christmas Tree called that and passed a symbolic resolution upholding Christmas "symbols and traditions".

Meanwhile when Homeland Security Commissar Michael Chertoff lighted a Chanukah Menorah, nobody suggested that it should be called a "Holiday Candle."

Using guilt generated by the Jewish holocaust, the elitists are conditioning Christians to defer to Jews and meekly forfeit their beliefs and institutions. Naturally, this is causing anti-Semitism.

Happily, some Christians are standing up. There was uproar in a Long Island community when a Jewish town Supervisor interrupted a Catholic priest who evoked Christ when blessing a Christmas tree at a lighting ceremony.

"This is inappropriate," the Supervisor said. "I just want to make it clear that this is in no way a religious ceremony."

"I have to tell you that Manhasset is in an uproar," said Christine Roberts, who is Jewish herself. "It really was the wrong thing to say at the wrong time. There is a lot of hostility going around. Angry letters to the editor?angry conversations. Insanity has absolutely overtaken this town." The Supervisor later apologized.("Christmas Debate at Manhasset Tree Lighting," Newsday.com Dec.9)

In a wider context, a high school student in Pittsfield MA refused to wear a yellow Star of David; similar to the ones the Nazis forced Jews to wear. It was part of an exercise to "teach empathy."

Samantha Gage 13, said: "Many people won't learn anything except that their religion (if they're not Jewish) isn't good enough and that being Jewish or expressing Jewish symbols is a better religion and the only way to get the grades we deserve."

Not all Jews are part of this ruling caste but only those Jews (and non-Jews) who work for the central bankers through the web of corporations, foundations, media holdings, universities etc. that constitutes the US Establishment.

The majority of Jews like myself want no part of the New World Order, which actually plans to stamp out true Judaism (and Jews) along with Christianity and Christians. (see "seal the door where evil dwells" )

But the bankers would love to deflect hostility against all Jews, not just the ones that work for them. This way opposition to their malevolent plan can be dismissed as hate and prejudice.


FINALLY

We keep hearing alarming reports that the United States is becoming a Christian theocracy. This is funny given the treatment Christmas is receiving. Martin Luther King merits a national holiday but not Christ.

Jay Leno made the point that it's OK to name Halloween. "So we have a holiday for Demons and Witches but not one for Christ?" (Very telling.) He heard the movie "Miracle on 34th Street" was being retitled "Coincidence on 34th Street."

Christians must boycott all events and stores that pass Christmas off as a generic holiday. They must organize counter events, which are authentic celebrations. (Chanukah falls on Dec. 16 this year, and on Dec. 5 in 2007.)

Christ said: "So every one who acknowledges me before men, I will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; but whoever denies me before men, I also will also deny before my Father who is in heaven." (Mathew 10:32-33)

Then he said:" Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

We can no more take religion out of national life than we can take light out of a room without being left in darkness. The new treatment of Christmas is more proof that we are being subjected to a stealth campaign of behaviour modification. The only way to stop the downward spiral is for the US to accept Christianity as its official religion, as part of a religious revival that would involve putting the current criminal satanic leadership in jail and getting out of Iraq.

In Israel, Jews have no trouble mentioning Passover. Christians also need a national homeland where they can officially observe their beliefs. What better place than the United States?

Let's celebrate Christ's birthday with gusto this year!

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Those pikey Jewish Muslim Masons have sure got it in for us.

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Those pikey Jewish Muslim Masons have sure got it in for us.

Nice to see you back, Moralman. How are the aliens with the eyes?
Dear Johnderondon
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Most Jews and Freemasons are well to do citizens in society.
In the UK, they are thinking of banning Christmas lights in certain places because it might offend Muslims.
I have a better idea.
We should heavily fine Islamic fly tippers for making every community a nest for larger than life rodents.
I am annoyed that we Christians keep on appeasing Pakistani and Bangladeshi phlegm spitters, when they in turn make communities as run down as the Brooklyn Ghetto.
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In the UK, they are thinking of banning Christmas lights in certain places because it might offend Muslims.
I define them in a way that excludes diseminating false, inflamatory accusations. Whereas you appear quite at ease regurgitating Makow`s rabble-rousing garbage.

For example you quoted your man Makow saying:

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"Did you enjoy the Holiday Concert?" the school principal asked my friend.

"Yes, but why didn't you call it a Christmas Concert?'

"Oh I can't. The Superintendent said the concert must be inclusive of all the diverse cultures in the school. We are not allowed to mention Christmas, Christ, or Jesus."

My friend was bewildered. The school is 95% Christian. Yet all the carols with Christian references were performed as instrumentals. Instead they recited "In Flanders Fields," a poem commemorating the dead from World War One!
Do you think you could tell us which school? Betcha can`t.

Cos it ain`t true

You`ve really got to stop swallowing this stuff, Moralman. It`ll endanger your moral fibre. Try something more grounded in reality like...I dunno, The National Inquirer would be a step up, I suppose.
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I will admit, I didn't even read this long introductory post. I don't have to, I have heard it every Christmas for my whole life. Christmas for Christians, yea, but its a pagan holiday... no it ain't.. 'tis too.

I've heard it all before and nothing ever changes, and nothing ever will. So I'll just crawl back in my hole while everyone merrily discusses the true meaning of Christmas. Anybody want some fruit cake to eat while you type?
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(This is an update of "Christmas Was Crucified Again" posted Dec. 30, 2005. Makow is taking a Leave to write a horror movie about a Feminist who is haunted by her aborted children. )
Should be funny.

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"Did you enjoy the Holiday Concert?" the school principal asked my friend.

"Yes, but why didn't you call it a Christmas Concert?'
Is this how he's going to write the script for the movie too? What kind of person has this as their first response to the above question? It's interesting. They expect Jews, athiests, and Hindus to take "Merry Christmas" with stride (which most do), then act offended upon hearing "Happy Holidays". Frankly I think we should push the secular terms as a public service... because you Christians are getting way too thin-skinned.

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"Oh I can't. The Superintendent said the concert must be inclusive of all the diverse cultures in the school. We are not allowed to mention Christmas, Christ, or Jesus."
I think that's a dumb reason. A better reason would be that public (PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS REGARDLESS OF RELIGION) should not be sponsoring religious ceremonies of any kind unless of some academic utility (if such a case is possible).

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My friend was bewildered. The school is 95% Christian. Yet all the carols with Christian references were performed as instrumentals. Instead they recited "In Flanders Fields," a poem commemorating the dead from World War One!
Big deal! Having ceremonies that do not contain references to religion is not the same as mocking religion or including all religions but yours. And the 95-5% ratio is irrelevant.

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This humiliating scene was replayed millions of times this Christmas season. Some Christian groups even boycotted retailers who dropped the word Christmas from their advertising. Celebrating the central Christian holiday, and even saying "Merry Christmas" has become a political act.
Well if you're a retailer, you want maximum sales: every religious group and sane Christians. I suppose the market research shows that non-Christians outnumber the wacked-out fundies and evangelicals that cry when they hear "Happy Holidays". Sorry. You lose. Don't worry though. Wackos still have WalMart.

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Why has this happened? The answer isn't pretty. The world financial elite wants to eradicate Christianity. Their forerunners crucified Christ. Christianity gives everyone a piece of the pie and elitists want it all for themselves.
Oh, the conspiracy theory I was waiting for.
Explain how Christianity gives everyone a piece of the pie. The goal of your psycho-Christian groups is to shove it down everyone's throat and push other religions to the sidelines. And your justification is that Christianity is for them too?

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According to Christianity, all human beings were created in God's image, i.e. Divine Truth resides in every soul. Accordingly, human life is sacred and God loves everyone equally.
Loves them enough to sadistically burn them for all eternity if they do not blindly accept a story regardless of deeds and other thoughts. Gee... Don't know why that is unappetizing to non-Christians.

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On the other hand, the New World Order wants to corrupt and debase humanity and snuff out any spark of Divinity. They want to allot us "human rights" (which they determine) instead of acknowledging our God given rights. You see, animals are better to herd and cull. .
Ah yes... The Illuminati. Of course. I haven't renewed my membership so I haven't been given the memo on destroying Christmas (or X-Mas, should I say).


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"DIVERSITY" .
Ooh. Now I know you're serious. That's a bad word to you guys (after all, your one religion should be good enough for everybody).


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In a truly pluralistic society, all major religions would be officially recognized. This is especially true of Christianity, the founding heritage practised by 80% of Americans. .
This was my favorite part of the article. It reminds me of a line from one of my favorite books. "All animals are created equal. Some are just more equal than others." This is especially true of Christianity.
How's this for a pluralistic society? No religion is officially recognized, so people can practice as they see fit. But of course neither of these is what you want. It seems clear you want one official religion and all the others can be tolerated (as long as the adherents stay quiet and go with the flow).

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In our society however, some people are in George Orwell's words, "more equal than others.".
Hee Hee. He read that book too. He didn't get it obviously... being that official recognition "should be especially true for Christianity".
Face it, MM. Makow's an idiot.

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"Diversity" is a devious ploy to subjugate the Christian majority. Christians have to take a back seat to 1.5% of Jews for whom Chanukah is an insignificant holiday that doesn't even fall on December 25 half of the time. (I won't mention "Kwanza" since most Blacks are Christian.)
How do they have to take backseat? Was the Christmas play replaced with a Chuannakah play? No. A non-religious play took it's place. In other places they try to include all faiths (which is about impossible). But what would an Illuminati conspiracy theory be without somehow coming up with a reason to get mad at the Jews.

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To degrade humanity, the elite has to dynamite the four pillars of human identity: race, religion, nation and family. Just as it promotes homosexuality and fe-manism to undermine family, it uses a Jewish holiday to destroy Christianity.
So those are the four pillars, eh? Seems to me that people are perfectly able to identify themselves even without being shoved into groups. And religion hasn't gone away, even for those who accept the religions of others. Feminism doesn't undermine family, just ascribed gender roles... Is that what you meant? Feminists still have families (except perhaps fringe radical feminists- who reactionaries like Makow use to paint the whole feminist movement since women gained the right to vote) and still care about them. People still belong to their religions regardless of whether the government or larger society recognizes them as special. Nationalism isn't going away any time soon... but it's way too new a phenomenon to be a pillar. And... race... I'll repeat... is BS.
This is why English profs who can't find decent work should avoid the social sciences. Makow would do much better for himself if he wrote fiction (Oh wait- he does. I'm reading it now. Never mind). Good luck to him on his lame horror flick.

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The truth is that most Jews and other non-Christians would be happy to make Christmas an official national holiday. Some Jews and Muslims even started groups to promote the authentic celebration of Christmas. No one can object to the spirit of Divine Love and human brotherhood that Christ represents. It is the heart and soul of Christmas.
I'd love to see the poll data. Though I'll admit, I don't think non-Christians mind a "Merry Christmas" from a friend... But the fact is most non-Christians do feel a bit awkward when surrounded by Christian symbols, especially when just going to the %$%#% supermarket. Retailers have figured this out.
But frankly I don't care if they do. The government should not recognize any particular religion. Period. And stores should do whatever the $$%% they want. Sorry if the free market doesn't go your way.

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No one, that is, except the foreign-based central bankers and the occult (i.e. Masonic) political and cultural establishment that they employ.

Masons are behind the spurious division of religion and state. In his book "Unholy Alliances" Dr. James Wardner points out that the Supreme Court had a Masonic majority during the 30-year period 1941-1971 when the court "erected a wall separating the religious from the secular. It was an epoch when prayer and Bible reading were erased from public education..." (P.72)

Paul Fisher (in "Behind the Lodge Door") suggests, "Masons have succeeded in having their religion dominate American society." (P.244)

"Freemasonry historically has been a revolutionary worldwide movement organized to advance Cabbalistic Gnosticism; to undermine and ...destroy Christianity; to infuse Masonic philosophy into key government structures; and to subvert any government which does not comport with Masonic principles." (P.16)
Oh... Where would this be going without the Masons. Takes me back to the days when I was a conspiracy freak.
I suppose they're an easy target.
This isn't helping Makow's credibility.

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The destruction of Christianity is a main goal of Communism
No, the destruction of capitalism is the primary goal. The destruction of all religions is a secondary one. And Christianity isn't as special as it thinks it is. It's seen as just another religion.
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, a spawn of the banking elite through its Masonic arm. Communist/Masonic governments persecuted and murdered Christians in Russia, China, Spain, Mexico, France etc.
Communist/Masonic governments, eh? Communist bankers? Where do you come up with this #$#@$?

I can't even make it through the rest of this without cracking up. Makow's a riot.
But let's celebrate X-Mas with gusto!
Happy Holidays, MM!
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