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Whether or not it is a TV show has no relevence as to whether or not it is propaganda. Perhaps propaganda is too strong a word, but there is definitely a strong pro-neocon bias in the show. You can see it in the way suspects are treated on the show. No one ever talks until after they are tortured. The information they receive through torture is always 100% accurate. Torture is so prevalent and so effective on the show, it portrays an image that it is the only legitimate solution we have to fight terrorism.

Now, like I said, I personally don't care. I like the show, but I'm not dumb enough to buy into its mentality. I've met a number of people who are. If you aren't one of them, good for you.
I watched the season premier. The White House is debating whether to detain Muslims. As the president is considering opposing viewpoints, the phone rings. There's been a nuclear attack. How convenient! Suddenly we all are lead to realize the folly of "weak liberal thinking".

Only through torture do detainees talk, and each time they provide accurate information that will save the country. Failing to torture is a sign of weakness that puts our country at risk.

"24" pushes far right propaganda, injects Fox News into every other scene, and presents an inaccurate and unrealistic view of the world. "24" would work well as a cartoon, but not as a show that tries to pass itself off as realistic, or one that Bush Administration officials should be worshipping each week.
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injects Fox News into every other scene,
Would you expect Fox to portray CNN, or a program on ABC to depict the characters watching NBC news?

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A program on TV that isn't realistic? We can't have that!

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"24" would work well as a cartoon, but not as a show that tries to pass itself off as realistic
I only hope it doesn't take away too much of the audience for serial documentaries like CSI and Medium.
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"Whether by accident or design, 24 is indoctrinating a generation of Americans into believing that the future of the country will be characterized by paranoia, fear and mass terror, and that the only way to combat such chaos is to give the government unlimited power to ‘protect’ us."

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You mean----kinda like Al Gore is doing with his global warming, Inconvenient Truth" propaganda?
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If you think 24 is propaganda you are reading way into it. It is purely entertaining television. Just like Prison Break, Heros, Lost, etc.
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If you think 24 is propaganda you are reading way into it. It is purely entertaining television. Just like Prison Break, Heros, Lost, etc.
Now I think you're entering into the realm of subjectivity.
Replace the bold-word with "money-making" and I'll agree on all counts.
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Besides----Dems think that terrorism is way overplayed and part of a fear-mongering scheme. Even if a suitcase nuke goes off in this country, the Dems will STILL think it's all being overplayed to help George W. Bush in some way.

Now, if it happens while a Democrat is president, their entire position will totally flip, of course. All of a sudden, they will WANT the entire country to realize what at threat it is.

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If you think 24 is propaganda you are reading way into it. It is purely entertaining television. Just like Prison Break, Heros, Lost, etc.
Now I think you're entering into the realm of subjectivity.
Replace the bold-word with "money-making" and I'll agree on all counts.
Of course its money-making. That's a given. Because its entertaining for people. Viewers aren't watching 24 for news and information.

Daily Show and Colbert Report. Now those could be considered propaganda.
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Whether or not it is a TV show has no relevence as to whether or not it is propaganda. Perhaps propaganda is too strong a word, but there is definitely a strong pro-neocon bias in the show. You can see it in the way suspects are treated on the show. No one ever talks until after they are tortured. The information they receive through torture is always 100% accurate. Torture is so prevalent and so effective on the show, it portrays an image that it is the only legitimate solution we have to fight terrorism.

Now, like I said, I personally don't care. I like the show, but I'm not dumb enough to buy into its mentality. I've met a number of people who are. If you aren't one of them, good for you.
I watched the season premier. The White House is debating whether to detain Muslims. As the president is considering opposing viewpoints, the phone rings. There's been a nuclear attack. How convenient! Suddenly we all are lead to realize the folly of "weak liberal thinking".

Only through torture do detainees talk, and each time they provide accurate information that will save the country. Failing to torture is a sign of weakness that puts our country at risk.

"24" pushes far right propaganda, injects Fox News into every other scene, and presents an inaccurate and unrealistic view of the world. "24" would work well as a cartoon, but not as a show that tries to pass itself off as realistic, or one that Bush Administration officials should be worshipping each week.
Since all of their story lines tilted to the left including all of the main characters. Also, there was a movie based on a book about a female VP candidate. The "bad guy" who slandered her was a democrat in the book, but Spielberg (who produced it) insisted that the character be an R instead. That also was a propoganda piece.
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