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Old 06-15-2004, 12:12 PM
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Default Turkey Pro-Palestinian? It can't be

Normally on their knees for Israel and it's Western Allies, Turkey is actually opening its mouth to make a criticism.

"a country that would like to be treated with respect, should respect the rights of another country as well". He told the Turkish parliament that "Israel's actions encourage the growth of anti-Semitism around the world"

Now addressing the comment of respect, it only makes sense that a supposed democratic country would apply decency and morality into their military guidelines, but I guess that would just be asking for too much. It is quite odd to me that after 37 years of occupation the Arab and Middle East neighbors couldn't have done a bit more in achieving a Palestinian state. The continuation of unrest in the conflict is largely due to the neighboring states turning a blind eye to the situation and actually provoking and allowing it by becoming buddy buddy with Israel. Turkey as well as Egypt and Jordan have been selling out the Palestinians for decades, which makes it funny to hear a defense coming out of Erdogan's mouth. But I guess the balancing act of keeping close with the Arab community and selling its soul to Western states is a hard job indeed. While I'm always game for Turkey or anyone else to point out the brutality of Israeli/Palestinian conflict, in hopes that one day it will end, I think that Turkey should have been following its own advice when it comes to regards to Cyprus. But again what democracy or wannabe democracy ever really follows its own advice.

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Old 06-15-2004, 06:44 PM
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If they'd all stop "hating Jews" long enough....they just might could get a Palestinian state going. They might achieve something. But when one's entire existence revolves around hating a particular people, it's kinda hard to make any achievements for one's own people. I haven't seen Turkey....or any other Arab nation offering to take Palestinians in....or to help them make a decent existence for themselves. About all they have in common, is their hate for Jews. Pretty sad.
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The Palestinians don't hate Jews for being Jews, they hate being occupied, they hate having their land taken from them, they hate the oppression, the people who happen to be doing to them are Jews. If someone came into my house tomorrow and took it from under me and it was praised by the new government that was implanted, I'd hate it too.

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read some history JP5 - - it will serve you well so you don't look such a fool by making comments like that.



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Old 06-16-2004, 12:00 AM
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Oh sorry. Turkey's PM - Erdogan

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If they'd all stop "hating Jews" long enough....they just might could get a Palestinian state going. They might achieve something. But when one's entire existence revolves around hating a particular people, it's kinda hard to make any achievements for one's own people. I haven't seen Turkey....or any other Arab nation offering to take Palestinians in....or to help them make a decent existence for themselves. About all they have in common, is their hate for Jews. Pretty sad.
Any turk would take being called an Arab as a bloody insult, you just insulted some 50 million. You seem quite unfamiliar with the history and situation of Turkey, so I'll rephrase what DBG said in a more polite manner.

Turkey has the liberty to criticize Israel and not get hammered, the water ensures that.
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