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Default Alright! The democrats have a chance to surrender...

Yep, let's bring those troops home so that peace will once again reign through out the middle east, and muslims will be free of American oppression.

I hope all your left loon democratic appeaser leaders have a good plan, because this ain't going away. Oh, but we could have waited another decade or so before actually confronting this evil and it would have probably worked itself out. Ya think? Have fun folks, your time is a come n'.

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Default Maybe you should learn

Maybe you should learn from all their propaghanda, rather than use it as a battle cry. See how they claim they are winning.. We need to claim we won. We dethroned their Sunni leader. We installed a new democratic government. We won. And when you win, you leave.

If you then want to keep our troops there fighting a gorilla war, letting them get picked off day in and day put for years and years, you will flush this win down the toilet and turn it into a defeat, as we are already well on our way to doing.

But no, small thinkers like you take the goading of a sunni groups as someone calling you chicken. Oh we need to stay and get our soldiers killed because some idiot said we were too chicken to stay and get our soldier killed.
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Default Get your al-Qaeda ghosts out of here

It baffles me how the NeoCons can always see an al-Qaeda hiding around every tree

Did it EVER occur to you that maybe, just maybe the 99.9% of the Iraqis fighting to get rid of a conquering power (the US) and to settle some long standing differences via Civil War will NEVER allow al-Qaeda to come in and somehow "take over" Iraq? Al-Qaeda is a paramilitary, multi-nationally organization, which means crazy fanatics from all over the Muslim world has joined them. This organization can not, does not want to, and never will "control" a country.

Clearly, if you think the US is having a tough time controlling the Iraqis, imagine the problems a group of fanatical, fundamentalist outsiders would have of taking control of the government.

Get real...those old scare tactic ideas, your al-Qaeda boogie man, has proven to be just a NeoCon fairy tail, which used to frighten the people of the US. Not any more.
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It baffles me how the NeoCons can always see an al-Qaeda hiding around every tree

Did it EVER occur to you that maybe, just maybe the 99.9% of the Iraqis fighting to get rid of a conquering power (the US) and to settle some long standing differences via Civil War will NEVER allow al-Qaeda to come in and somehow "take over" Iraq? Al-Qaeda is a paramilitary, multi-nationally organization, which means crazy fanatics from all over the Muslim world has joined them. This organization can not, does not want to, and never will "control" a country.
...That's what Afghanistan said. Great history lesson hobo.
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Maybe you should learn from all their propaghanda, rather than use it as a battle cry. See how they claim they are winning.. We need to claim we won. We dethroned their Sunni leader. We installed a new democratic government. We won. And when you win, you leave.

If you then want to keep our troops there fighting a gorilla war, letting them get picked off day in and day put for years and years, you will flush this win down the toilet and turn it into a defeat, as we are already well on our way to doing.

But no, small thinkers like you take the goading of a sunni groups as someone calling you chicken. Oh we need to stay and get our soldiers killed because some idiot said we were too chicken to stay and get our soldier killed.
Where should we fight them, al qaeda, where in your wisdom should we fight them?

Are you wanting to sign the surrender pledge that al qaeda wants, is that what you are saying?
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Well----we KNOW that Pres. George W. Bush won't be signing a "surrender accord." Guess these terrorists will have to hope for a Democrat President to get elected into office in two years before there's any chance of that happening.

Maybe it will be Hillary. She's already stated just the other day that IF she gets to be President, she will END the Iraq war. No mention of success or winning, BTW.

So---al Qaeda take note: look like Hillary's your BEST chance!!
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Default Let's call it defeat...

when the total casualty number has exceeded vietnam. Though I morn the loss of some fine americans, 3000 losses is not exactly heavy duty considering that some WWII battles hit that number by themselves. Iraq should become the 51st state and their oil?.....ours!
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Default HAMMER STUCJ IN THE GREAT UN-PATRIOTIC war.

HAMMER SAYS [quotewhen the total casualty number has exceeded vietnam. Though I morn the loss of some fine americans, 3000 losses is not exactly heavy duty considering that some WWII battles hit that number by themselves. Iraq should become the 51st state and their oil?.....ours][/quote]

With your moniker I am not at all surprised that you are stuck in the trows of WW II or as you Soviet-russianites call it THE GREAT UN-PATRIOTIC war.
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Default Wherever they are.

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Maybe you should learn from all their propaghanda, rather than use it as a battle cry. See how they claim they are winning.. We need to claim we won. We dethroned their Sunni leader. We installed a new democratic government. We won. And when you win, you leave.

If you then want to keep our troops there fighting a gorilla war, letting them get picked off day in and day put for years and years, you will flush this win down the toilet and turn it into a defeat, as we are already well on our way to doing.

But no, small thinkers like you take the goading of a sunni groups as someone calling you chicken. Oh we need to stay and get our soldiers killed because some idiot said we were too chicken to stay and get our soldier killed.
Where should we fight them, al qaeda, where in your wisdom should we fight them?

Are you wanting to sign the surrender pledge that al qaeda wants, is that what you are saying?
We need to fight Al Qaeda wherever they are, in conjunction with the governments whose territories they hide in. This includes Pakistan where it is figured that Bin Laden is as well as the United States where it is possible sleeper cells exist. In Iraq we need to fight real Al Qaeda terrorists, like those that want to attack us wherever we are.

However, you seem to think that any Sunni insurgancy group "linked" to Al Qaeda are international terrorists rather than insurgants against our occupation of Iraq. I'm not saying surrender anything. I am saying that staying there just because of some BS "emboldening" claim is just that BS. How can you embolden international terrorists who are willing to be suicide bombers already. But if we leave we don't embolden insurgents against our occupation, we end their cause. The belief that these people will then become international terrorists who live freely in Iraq is just fear mongering.
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"Wherever they are!"

Except Iraq..or Afganistan.
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