I hope it's true......but forgive me for not trusting the Saudi's at this moment, I'd like to see some proof.



Saudi al-Qaida Leader Reportedly Killed

Jun 18, 6:04 PM (ET)

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - The purported leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was killed in a raid in the capital Friday, Saudi security officials said. Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, was killed by security forces who had surrounded militants in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of the body of an American killed earlier in the evening, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Al-Arabiya satellite station said two other militants, on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, were also killed in the raid, and another was injured and arrested.

One Saudi security official who took part in the raid said that three or four bodies were taken to the Interior Security Hospital, and al-Moqrin is believed to be one of them. Two suspects escaped, he said.

The official said the bodies would undergo forensic tests.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is at the top of the list of suspects in Saudi Arabia and is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Friday's beheading of American hostage Paul M. Johnson Jr.

Al-Moqrin's group has claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months."

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — The leader of Al Qaeda (search) in Saudi Arabia (search) was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that Abdulaziz al-Moqrin (search) has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s (search) body.

HMM isnt it odd how they got this guy like IMMEDIATELY?? call me a conspiracy theorist, but i think they knew where he was ALL along

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Sounds like they didn't suffer enough.

And do you think we can do anything about possible Saudi collaboration with terrorists or force them to provide more information on terrorist activity? No, because it would inherently translate to instability within the country and high oil prices. See how oil manages to flow into nearly every realm of geopolitics?

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I don't thing the complaint is with the Saudi people as a whole but rather their government. They were quite late in acknowledging their contribution to the current terrorist problems. It is debatable if they really understand the problem they have helped to create and are willing to do what is needed to correct it.

19 of the 9/11 hijackers were from there. OBL came from there even though he isn't Saudi born. There are a lot of them now fighting our guys in Iraq.

While the Royal family there are supportive of the U.S., some members of their family have supported al Qaeda even as recently as the Afghan war. In the aftermath of the WTC attack a member of their Royal family came to give the victims 10 million dollars in aid, but then began preaching how Americans brought it on themselves by supporting Israel. Rudy Giulliani sent him home with his money. (Gotta' like old Rudy.)

Bottom line... the Saudis are trying to play both sides of the coin. That's not proving to be very smart now because al Qaeda Saudis are "biting the hand that feeds them." They're making the Royal family appear weak. Now they can't protect Westerners in their country.

So with this as your rule, then the Abu Graib "scandal" is only about a few bad apples?
If I were your uncle, I'd get really paranoid right about now.

You and I can hope they do, but when you get down to it, we don't have any way to control how they judge us.

They have pre-concieved ideas of the Infidel. Most are taught in their childhood how to hate us. They want us out of the Middle East entirely so they can spread their hatred. World domination of their particular brand of Islam is what they're after. You should read some of Osama's letters.

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I agree about your stance on about the Saudis, but what are we to do about it? Our biggest roadblock is oil because any instability within the Kingdom means a massive price spike. We’re stuck in a difficult position, that’s for sure…

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Full agreement. Although I'm willing to start giving the Saudis a little benefit of the doubt on stuff like this. Once terror attacks started happening within their own borders, they suddenly got a lot more serious.